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how does the different strategies work ?
« on: April 27, 2017, 11:26:02 PM »
i read much in both forums but i still dont understand it completly  Sad .....

can somebody please help me and explain me what the different strategies do ?

window 1 (bollinger band):

only bollinger bands:
buy if the price x% from the border of the lower bollinger band .....
sell if the price x% from the border of the upper bollinger band  .....

buy -> gain and sell-> bb:
buy if the price x% (gain?) from the lower ema .....
sell if the price x% from the border of the upper bollinger band  .....

buy -> bb and sell-> gain:
buy if the price x% from the border of the lowerbollinger band  .....
sell if the price x% (gain?) from the upper ema.....

max. balance for trade is only for this pair and gunbot split this in a few smalle trades ?

i dont have realy understand how gunbot buy/sell in this mode ?

in the other forum gunther write that is like a kind of "trailing buy/sell", if i had understand it right..... (it follows the price, till it turns ?)



window 2 (step gain = supergun ?):

works only with emas....

gunbot buy at level 1 and level 2 and level 3 (%) under the lower ema....
and it sells at level 1 and level 2 and level 3 (%) above the upper ema .....

if i have understand it right, than gunbot follows the price, till it turn....
if it turn under level 1 than it buys, if it turn under level 2 then it buy again and so on ?
tham with selling ?

but for what are the fourth "buy level" and "sell level" ?
if you choose "1" for the fourth "buy level", then gunbot only use the "buy level 1", to trade ?

gunbot splits the "max balance to trade" trough the number of "buy levels" you use ?



window 3 (1000trades):

works with emas, too ......
but how ?



window 4 (russian roulette):

works with emas, too.....
looks like the same as 1000trades ?


and why is it not possible to save the settings for the window 3 and 4 ......


wich one is better for wich pair ?
logical i would say, the ema-strategie is better for pairs, where the ups and/or downs not often reached the bollinger bands.....

the perfect pair to trade should have much up and downs (waves) as possible....
in the best case an side or uptrend ?

if the pair is not realy volotile it make no sense .....
if the pair in an downtrand, it is possible, but more risky ? becouse maybe the price falls under the sell-price and i have to wait, till the price goes up again ?

whats about the "max last prices" ?
gunbot use it, to detect the trend ?
it it possible to set it to high ?

the statistic only show the pairs with volume above x.....
but it dont detect, if the pair in an up or downtrend ?



can somebody please give me the waitresses for the different traiding styles ?

maybe then i understand, what they are doing (iam a programmer (but much different applications) too) (:

if ..... then .......
or something like that.....
i dont need the sourcecode.....
only the logic (in short form), for each "style"


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Re: how does the different strategies work ?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2017, 11:41:19 PM »
window 1 (bollinger band):

only bollinger bands:
buy if the price x% from the border of the lower bollinger band .....
sell if the price x% from the border of the upper bollinger band  .....

buy -> gain and sell-> bb:
buy if the price x% (gain?) from the lower ema .....
sell if the price x% from the border of the upper bollinger band  .....
right

buy -> bb and sell-> gain:
buy if the price x% from the border of the lowerbollinger band  .....
sell if the price x% (gain?) from the upper ema.....
sell if the price is % gain from the bought price

max. balance for trade is only for this pair and gunbot split this in a few smalle trades ?
max balance in BB and stepgain is per trade: since the bot waits to sell before to buy again, it is for pair too


in the other forum gunther write that is like a kind of "trailing buy/sell", if i had understand it right..... (it follows the price, till it turns ?)
right

window 2 (step gain = supergun ?):

works only with emas....

gunbot buy at level 1 and level 2 and level 3 (%) under the lower ema....
and it sells at level 1 and level 2 and level 3 (%) above the upper ema .....
no: it buys and sells when the price reaches one of the configured levels or below. Basically it tries to reach what you want it to reach and if it doesnt reach it buy/sell on the below ema (always one buy and one sell tho, not multiple buy and multiple sell at different levels)

but for what are the fourth "buy level" and "sell level" ?
if you choose "1" for the fourth "buy level", then gunbot only use the "buy level 1", to trade ?
it tries to reach the level you set there

window 3 (1000trades):

works with emas, too ......
but how ?
it is a ping pong above and below ema


window 4 (russian roulette):

works with emas, too.....
looks like the same as 1000trades ?
it is the same but it sells using the trailing sell method, not at fixed %GAIN like 1000trades: so it doesnt place immediate sell orders, it waits for the price to grow and then turn before to sell. The implementation of this method has lead to step gain

and why is it not possible to save the settings for the window 3 and 4 ......
becuase this is just a port of this old strategy that people wanted back since it is profitable: the save setting thing was implemented later on


wich one is better for wich pair ?
logical i would say, the ema-strategie is better for pairs, where the ups and/or downs not often reached the bollinger bands.....

the perfect pair to trade should have much up and downs (waves) as possible....
in the best case an side or uptrend ?

if the pair is not realy volotile it make no sense .....
if the pair in an downtrand, it is possible, but more risky ? becouse maybe the price falls under the sell-price and i have to wait, till the price goes up again ?
1000trades and russian roulette are good for side movements, the other for spikes


whats about the "max last prices" ?
gunbot use it, to detect the trend ?
it it possible to set it to high ?
the higher you set it, the more the trend watchdog is cautious to say "it reverted"


the statistic only show the pairs with volume above x.....
but it dont detect, if the pair in an up or downtrend ?
right

Hope it helped

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Re: how does the different strategies work ?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2017, 01:26:39 AM »
thank you very much !

that brings light in the dark !  :D

if i have understand it right, than a higher ""gain %" means less traides with higher profits - a lower "gain %" means more trades with less profit, dependet to the price/trend....

how does the bb-method buy/sell ?
do it sell, with trailing, if the price goes x% above  the lower bollinger band ?
or do it buy direct, if it cross x% above the lower bollinger band ?
i think the first one ? and x% can be negative, too
- that means in the case of selling, to buy under the lower bollinger band ?
and in the case of buying, above the upper bollinger band ?

the buy-gain and sell-bb - strategie should be very good for an agressive uptrend (with spikes)?
becouse it buy a little under the lower ema and sells with "trailing" above x% under the upper bollinger band !?

ok, sorry ! i remember  the step-gain/supergun works with ema-crossing ?!
in the case of step-gain.....
for example i have this setting:
level 1 = 2
level 2 = 4
level 3 = 6
and the price go up to 5, then gunbot sell for 4 ?



1000trades = buy while emas cross sell after "gain %" from buy-price !?

ok, if "russian roulette" use a trailing sell, then it should make more trades and more profit, like the 1000trades ?
and why is "russian roulette" not good for spikes ?
if it trails it should be better than the gain ?
or reacts it directly to an reserve and not with a little distance, like a "normal" "trailing stopp" ? and so it sometimes sell under the "gain" ?

thank you very much !
very interesting what you have programmed ! good ideas ! (:


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