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Swifteagle - bad payer
« on: May 29, 2017, 07:21:07 AM »
WANTED

@SWIFTEAGLE

BAD PAYER


User Swifteagle owes 50% of the dealt price for setup and consulting services.

He's been offline in TG since 19/05 and in Gunthy since 09/05, the day I sold him the setup.

Do not deal with him and be aware of sudden new users that somehow have a relative knowledge about Gunbot. He's fluent in English and Spanish.

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Re: Swifteagle - bad payer
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2017, 05:12:34 AM »

Yes, I am the same Swfiteagle, However I was forced to create a new account because for some reason my account was deleted.

Unfortunately, I was unable to respond to this post earlier as I was overseas.... I logged in in Telegram to see you have sent me a link to this post.

Our agreement was that I would pay you in full once I had double my original investment....  Unfortunately, not long after using your settings I was -12% down and then it went down even further. I approached but you basically said shifted blame on me... No big deal, I took the loss and stop using your settings. Actually, I stopped using the bot all together as I was heading overseas.
You asked me for payment, I made you a transfer of  0.05 bitcoin... I actually paid 0.07 for the bot but you wanted me to give you 0.23 for your 'winning' settings. How do you even begin to justify such high prices? Were you taking advantage of a beginner like me? Do you give a kick back to GUN? Surely his bot would have taken a lot longer to develop than your settings. As a matter of fact, I was doing a lot better with the settings found for free in this very forum!

To make matters worse, you tell me via Telegram that my bot will be canceled... Why? Why would it be canceled? how are my dealings with you any business of Gun? 

I am not one to go owing money to ANYONE! But I am not a SUCKER that is going to pay 0.23 for something that was promised to bring me double my money....  I have yet to double my money, Gun can probably see that my API has not had any traffic as I stop using the bot. Why did I stop? Because I lost money... Am I going to blame you, no... But I have not doubled my money, so the deal has not been completed.

Now, this is my statement and I hope my account nor this post be deleted!









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Re: Swifteagle - bad payer
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2017, 12:20:10 AM »
Hello back, finally you've appeared.


I don't know about the deleted account, but I hope you have your screenshots, I'm about to debunk point by point:

1 - Overseas doesn't make you totally unreacheable. But ok
For my part, on the other side, I started like this when you asked me about previous clients and services offered:


2 - Our agreement was you to recover your investment not in my settings, but in the full consulting services. I NEVER sell settings alone, or I wouldn't have spent hours talking to you, transfering knowledge. And to improve your gain making better trades. Let's remember this:



3 - YOU: Our agreement was that I would pay you in full once I had double my original investment.


Correct. And you just paid half of it, with an excuse of having realized that the money was in alts, and I agreed to receive in the next day and kept TEACHING:


And you delayed another time:

For non Spanish readers, "que pena contigo" is like "i'm sorry for you"

4 - YOU: Unfortunately, not long after using your settings I was -12% down and then it went down even further. I approached but you basically said shifted blame on me... No big deal, I took the loss and stop using your settings.

Like all of us, the market just went down - thus the devaluation. This does not mean bot is not trading  - or producing more unities of BTC on each trade. People, and apparently you, tend to forget this. Let's also remember so there is no doubt about it:


And let's not forget the time Polo was down and NOBODY was able to run the bot correctly, not only you or me.


The Red Sea was over, BTC favorable, everybody trading but not you... cause again you did not pay and I agreed half - better than nothing. But I was still being polite, as it should be.




5 - YOU: You asked me for payment, I made you a transfer of  0.05 bitcoin... I actually paid 0.07 for the bot but you wanted me to give you 0.23 for your 'winning' settings. How do you even begin to justify such high prices? Were you taking advantage of a beginner like me? Do you give a kick back to GUN? Surely his bot would have taken a lot longer to develop than your settings. As a matter of fact, I was doing a lot better with the settings found for free in this very forum!

Here things need to be split:
A) Price agreed was 0.1, you paid 0.05 and still owes the remaining. No 0.23, no winning settings and yes, many hours pent with you and many thanks received
B) Who are taking advantage here clearly is not me.
C) What about Gun?

D ) Screenshots are better to prove, as always:



And here ends the conversation:

To make matters worse, you tell me via Telegram that my bot will be canceled..

.YOU:  Why? Why would it be canceled? how are my dealings with you any business of Gun? 


A: Because you are a scammer and don't pay even 0.05? But it won't happen, do not worry. Besides, I thank you very much for replying this post cause now I had the opportunity to really show who you are, while you attempt to claim something that is not true.


YOU: I am not one to go owing money to ANYONE! But I am not a SUCKER that is going to pay 0.23 for something that was promised to bring me double my money....  I have yet to double my money, Gun can probably see that my API has not had any traffic as I stop using the bot. Why did I stop? Because I lost money... Am I going to blame you, no... But I have not doubled my money, so the deal has not been completed.

Now, this is my statement and I hope my account nor this post be deleted!

MY ANSWER: About 0.23, I can make all the conversation public and there's no mentioning of it. The final amount, 0.01 was proposed by you and I accepted, after having explained that my previous background was in social development so I believe and act for win-win situations.

After almost a month without giving notice, you appear and try to blame me and taint my reputation. You were the one that suggested that I'd kept using illustrations like I did with you while I was providing the consulting service. Now you cal it garbage and says you are in loss. But you also says that turned off the bots and also was reminded about the devaluation of coins. As always, I bet my reputation here and now if you didn't got more BTC than before. But you cannot prove that you did it or did it not, cause you've said, you haven't used the gain per trade calc - a mandatory tool to track your growth and to compare the previous results with the new ones. All you have are empty words and the proofs against them are pasted above.

Now I can go back to my Sunday.

Thanks again for the opportunity of making everything even clearer.


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Re: Swifteagle - bad payer
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2017, 09:58:30 AM »
He's been offline in TG since 19/05 and in Gunthy since 09/05, the day I sold him the setup.

"The day I sold him the setup."

The 19th of May was the day you approached me asking me for money...  That day I was -10.12% in the negative and you wanted me to transferred you some money.  A few days later I turned off the bot and went overseas. However, you are miss leading people by implying you gave me the settings and I went offline the day you sold them to me. That was the last day we spoke, that was the day I showed you I was losing money... -10.23%, please show people the telegram conversation.

I had been using the setups already for several days and you and I had been chatting throughout that period of time. 

"criptonauta: About 0.23, I can make all the conversation public and there's no mentioning of it. The final amount, 0.01 was proposed by you and I accepted, after having explained that my previous background was in social development so I believe and act for win-win situations.

From telegram, While you did say that fee was too high for my initial balance you did not say anything after I agreed to pay 0.1 and then the rest when I double my money. Why? Because you were opportunistic of my stupidity.. Why didn't you tell me it was only a  set 0.1,?  Oh that is right, even I told you that Criptokeepercanada was selling his at 0.1 set price, but you did not say "I do too" because you knew I was going to be silly enough to give you another 0.13.

Criptonauta:
so 70/3 = 23,3333, that would be the time to double the capital now
 the difference of that is 46,66666
 so i'd take a third or -.23 and you make the double in 46.6 instead of 70
 or 2 thirds of the time you'd make without the new setup

after that, it wont be 46,6 days anymore, but 23.3
 until u reach 5 btc
 then only 46 trades are neeeded
[2:42:06 PM] Swifteagle:
so the charge is .23btc?


I am unhappy with the results and I am not prepared to pay more than what I paid for the bot.
I lost money, I sent you 0.05 payment, I then sold everything and moved it to ETH and went overseas.  You can rest easy that I actually lost money while using your settings and that I am not driving a lambo without paying you the 0.05. You implied I was going to double my money, it did not happen but nor did I come to you complaining. 

https://ibb.co/cSQC05Screenshot of my Polo account. Stopped using it on the 23rd of MAY!!! 


 Why? Why would it be canceled? how are my dealings with you any business of Gun? 

A: Because you are a scammer and don't pay even 0.05? But it won't happen, do not worry. Besides, I thank you very much for replying this post cause now I had the opportunity to really show who you are, while you attempt to claim something that is not true.


" while you attempt to claim something that is not true."

You are saying in spanish... " That you had not hear from me, and that you would hate to think I would not pay you since it was such little amount and moreover that it would mean the revocation of my gunbot licence. "
So how am claiming something that is not true? Please tell us why any dealings with you would compromise our license with gunbot? Do you give Gun kickbacks? at not time was I informed I was entering in a deal with gun as well.






« Last Edit: June 27, 2017, 10:06:59 AM by Swifteagle1 »

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Re: Swifteagle - bad payer
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2017, 05:44:39 PM »
Hello Swifteagle and all readers of this!

Chat history is a wonder of digital world in a case like this...

YOU SAY: The 19th of May was the day you approached me asking me for money...

MY ANSWER:
Our first conversation - April 22th. You came talking to me


And effectively about services:



Now I have a much better idea: Let's make our conversation public, so everyone can see if I'm a liar... We have nothing to hide right?

Since the content of the conversation is now public and I talk about my services, I also attaching the document we were talking about, where I explain my mindset - and that you are trying to distort with your weak arguments. READERS: A courtesy https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFgtbe7i0mLa2g5ZEF1VGhFdVU/view?usp=sharing. Please download it, read it and then read this chat again.

With everything set on the table, let's begin,


Your Telegram History with Swifteagle

22.04.2017 09:49:01, Swifteagle: Hi, sorry to bother you... It seems you know a lot about the bot. Just wondering could you lend me hand. What file needs to be edited to have the bot running 24/7?
22.04.2017 09:49:24, Swifteagle: I know I have to change it to BOT_MAX_LIFETIME:999999999,// overall bot lifetime(koef*min), but dont know which file.
22.04.2017 09:49:27, Swifteagle: Thank you!
22.04.2017 09:59:08, Criptonauta: hi
22.04.2017 09:59:27, Swifteagle: hi
22.04.2017 09:59:55, Criptonauta: BTC_XXX-config.js
22.04.2017 10:00:16, Swifteagle: Thank you!
22.04.2017 10:00:49, Swifteagle: is that for the new bot? 2.0.4B by default is  999999
22.04.2017 10:00:51, Swifteagle: correct?
22.04.2017 10:01:08, Criptonauta: 3.0.1
22.04.2017 10:01:20, Swifteagle: Thank you very much for your help
22.04.2017 10:01:25, Swifteagle: appreciate it
22.04.2017 10:03:23, Criptonauta: you're welcome
22.04.2017 10:03:46, Swifteagle: one final question is 3.0.1 that much better?
22.04.2017 10:09:47, Criptonauta: well
22.04.2017 10:09:53, Criptonauta: time will tell
22.04.2017 10:10:19, Criptonauta: my work with 2.04 and supergun is being nice for me
22.04.2017 10:10:48, Criptonauta: i'll make some tests during a period so I can compare and know more about the new strategy
22.04.2017 10:11:40, Swifteagle: Thank you for all the help and info!
22.04.2017 10:12:05, Criptonauta: ^^
24.04.2017 16:15:49, Swifteagle: Quick question... I am following your guide on the forum, which is great, thank you...
24.04.2017 16:15:55, Swifteagle: https://gunthy.org/index.php?topic=106.0
24.04.2017 16:15:59, Swifteagle: SG #2 - Criptonauta's Serial Killer
1/2/3 2/3/4 BS 2/3
EMA 0.02 and 0.04
Max latest prices 30
delay 10
24.04.2017 16:16:38, Swifteagle: the second part 2/3/4  ... is that 4 meant to be a 40? only asking because on the other stuff you have on the post, it is all double digit
24.04.2017 16:16:56, Swifteagle: So it got me thinking if there was a mistake
24.04.2017 16:16:58, Swifteagle: Cheers
24.04.2017 16:18:36, Criptonauta: Hi
No. this is an strategy for quicker buy/sell limiting the gain but with still with nice profit per sell
24.04.2017 16:18:47, Criptonauta: it wont try to follow de pump
24.04.2017 18:22:20, Swifteagle: Thank you for clearing that for me, appreciate it
24.04.2017 18:22:29, Swifteagle: you are so helpful to the community!
24.04.2017 18:23:05, Swifteagle: Not everyone as generous as you. so Thank you on behalf of all us noobs!
24.04.2017 18:31:58, Criptonauta: hehe, you're exaggerating, but my sincere thanks ^^
05.05.2017 06:57:33, Swifteagle: I am so sorry to bother you again..Do you have a decent setting for the latest 3.0.1 you could please share? The settings you shared on the forum have been fantastic for me on 2.0.4 and I very thankful as I actually lost money just using the normal kickass settings
05.05.2017 07:03:13, Swifteagle: also, do you speak spanish? Nauta in Spanish is related to space, so you are crypto space adventurer  😃
05.05.2017 11:03:38, Criptonauta: Hello
Brasileiro
Si, hablo espanõl
05.05.2017 23:14:44, Swifteagle: Yo soy de Colombia, pero vivo en Australia... que placer!
06.05.2017 07:31:35, Criptonauta: nice!
me interesa mucho new zealand o australia
06.05.2017 08:57:58, Swifteagle: Deberias venir
06.05.2017 08:58:23, Swifteagle: what do you do in Brasil
06.05.2017 08:58:24, Swifteagle: ?
06.05.2017 08:58:36, Swifteagle: Full time trader?
06.05.2017 10:49:15, Criptonauta: Ahora full time Gunbot Modder, Benchmarker y Trader
06.05.2017 11:22:33, Criptonauta: tambien con proyectos de desarollo social
06.05.2017 11:22:35, Criptonauta: y tu?
06.05.2017 21:03:59, Swifteagle: Como prefieres que te hable, en español o en ingles? Lo lamento, pero no se hablar portugues... Pero me parece una lengua super linda..
06.05.2017 21:04:21, Swifteagle: Yo soy administrador de una pagina web...
06.05.2017 21:06:54, Swifteagle: Oye que gran lastima lo que le ocurrio a chapecoense. Creo que conmovio a toda Colombia y Brasil... a mi me dio mucho pesar esa noticia
06.05.2017 21:59:57, Criptonauta: como prefieras, english o español

pagina de que?
07.05.2017 00:22:51, Swifteagle: Es un foro de stocks
07.05.2017 00:23:08, Swifteagle: Cuando aprendiste español?
07.05.2017 00:23:16, Criptonauta: ah entonces ya eres de la area
07.05.2017 00:23:24, Criptonauta: vivi en costa rica por 3 años
07.05.2017 00:23:39, Swifteagle: ah super bien
07.05.2017 00:23:49, Swifteagle: tengo un primo que vive en Costa Rica
07.05.2017 00:23:51, Swifteagle: te gusto?
07.05.2017 00:24:00, Criptonauta: si, buen lugae y gente
07.05.2017 00:24:22, Swifteagle: alla hablan con un accento muy parecido al colombiano
07.05.2017 00:25:02, Criptonauta: de hecho
el las teles habia varios programas colombianos
07.05.2017 00:25:12, Swifteagle: interesante
07.05.2017 00:25:20, Swifteagle: de que parte de brasil eres?
07.05.2017 00:25:36, Criptonauta: de Rio, pero vivo en Chapada dos guimarães, MT
07.05.2017 00:25:59, Swifteagle: Me encataria ir a Rio
07.05.2017 00:26:24, Swifteagle: Mi papa dice que es hermosa ciudad
07.05.2017 00:27:18, Criptonauta: estuve en colombia por 3 dias cuando ia a CR

en mi maestria una de mis amigas era colombiana, de medellin
07.05.2017 00:27:51, Swifteagle: donde estuvo?
07.05.2017 00:27:52, Criptonauta: me interesa conocer
07.05.2017 00:27:53, Swifteagle: en bogota?
07.05.2017 00:28:00, Swifteagle: o medellin?
07.05.2017 00:28:01, Criptonauta: xq trabajo con desarollo social
07.05.2017 00:28:09, Criptonauta: y las experiencias d ecolombia son increibles
07.05.2017 00:28:13, Swifteagle: Colombia necesita mucho de eso
07.05.2017 00:28:24, Criptonauta: bogota solamente
07.05.2017 00:28:33, Swifteagle: A mi no me gusta Bogota
07.05.2017 00:28:44, Swifteagle: muy fria y desordenada
07.05.2017 00:28:56, Criptonauta: clima loco
07.05.2017 00:29:05, Criptonauta: como en Curitiba en brasil
07.05.2017 00:29:06, Swifteagle: jajajajajaja
07.05.2017 00:29:16, Swifteagle: es fria tambien?
07.05.2017 00:29:25, Criptonauta: si
07.05.2017 00:29:39, Criptonauta: y cambia de repente
07.05.2017 00:29:47, Criptonauta: pero luego vuelve a esfriar
07.05.2017 00:30:25, Swifteagle: Como van las cosas en Brasil?
07.05.2017 00:31:26, Swifteagle: vi que hubo un problema con la presidenta hace unos años
07.05.2017 00:32:11, Criptonauta: heh
hube problema en brasil desde que portugal ha llegado en el jajaja
07.05.2017 00:32:23, Swifteagle: Jajajaja
07.05.2017 00:32:28, Criptonauta: nada ha cambiado
07.05.2017 00:32:35, Swifteagle: Lo mismo que Colombia
07.05.2017 00:32:49, Criptonauta: y el pueblo tampoco cambia
07.05.2017 00:32:52, Swifteagle: pero creo que ustedes estan un poco mejor economicamente
07.05.2017 00:33:19, Swifteagle: Tu crees que algun dia cambiaremos? O sera ya un problema que llevamos en la sangre?
07.05.2017 00:33:32, Swifteagle: tanta violencia y corrupcion...pobresa
07.05.2017 00:34:52, Criptonauta: aca hay un dicho que uno solo mueve cuando el agua se le bate al culo
aca ya tenemos el agua casi tapando la boca y aun no se hace nada
07.05.2017 00:35:24, Swifteagle: lo mismo que en colombia
07.05.2017 00:35:30, Criptonauta: entonces, sinceramente...
07.05.2017 00:35:32, Swifteagle: la gente aguanta mucho
07.05.2017 00:35:41, Swifteagle: la falta de educacion...
07.05.2017 00:36:16, Swifteagle: Me gustaria mucho que cambiaran las cosas, pero creo que es dificil en mi vida. quizas en muchos años
07.05.2017 00:38:16, Criptonauta: y como llegaste a aussie?
07.05.2017 00:41:34, Swifteagle: Mi papa se vino a vivir aca hace 20 años
07.05.2017 00:41:39, Swifteagle: buscando un mejor futuro
07.05.2017 00:41:46, Swifteagle: y me vine a vivir con el
07.05.2017 00:42:44, Swifteagle: Yo me llamo Felipe y tu?
07.05.2017 00:42:53, Criptonauta: André, mucho gusto
07.05.2017 00:43:03, Swifteagle: Un placer
07.05.2017 00:43:16, Swifteagle: Como te ha ido a ti con los cryptocurrencies?
07.05.2017 00:43:26, Swifteagle: yo apenas estoy empezando
07.05.2017 00:44:27, Criptonauta: el inicio o con gunbot?
07.05.2017 00:44:59, Swifteagle: Yo solo compre btc hace como un año y lo tenia en Lending
07.05.2017 00:45:06, Swifteagle: pero con gunbot hace 2 semanas
07.05.2017 00:45:45, Swifteagle: la primera semana no me fue muy bien con los settings de kickass.. pero cuando encontre tu post en el forum me ha ido bien con tus settings
07.05.2017 00:45:47, Swifteagle: gracias!
07.05.2017 00:46:03, Swifteagle: 10% en la primera semana con tus settings
07.05.2017 00:46:16, Criptonauta: jeje, tuve alguna plata en lending de polo por 1 mes. Gunbot me ha retornado mas que este mes en 1 dia jajaj
y usaba a btc jam, pero muy inseguro alla
07.05.2017 00:46:34, Criptonauta: oh que buena noticia ^^
07.05.2017 00:46:49, Swifteagle: tu utilizas el nuevo BB?
07.05.2017 00:47:13, Swifteagle: Yo veo que la version 3 usa mucha memoria del mi computador virtual
07.05.2017 00:47:20, Criptonauta: si, la usa
07.05.2017 00:47:28, Swifteagle: entonces estoy todavia utilizando el 2.0.4
07.05.2017 00:47:42, Swifteagle: Vale la pena el BB, si es tan bueno?
07.05.2017 00:48:24, Criptonauta: la ganancia mas grande que tuve con sg fue 17 y 19
con BB, 4 de 45+ y otras menores
07.05.2017 00:48:39, Criptonauta: pero son cosas distintas, tiempos distintos, monedas distintas
07.05.2017 00:48:48, Criptonauta: asi que uso a las dos
07.05.2017 00:48:48, Swifteagle: 45%?
07.05.2017 00:48:52, Criptonauta: si
07.05.2017 00:48:56, Swifteagle: WOW
07.05.2017 00:49:09, Swifteagle: no lo puedo creer
07.05.2017 00:49:25, Swifteagle: yo lo maximo que podido es 1%
07.05.2017 00:49:27, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 14'610 bytes]]
07.05.2017 00:49:40, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 3'009 bytes]]
07.05.2017 00:49:55, Swifteagle: WOW Andre te felicito
07.05.2017 00:49:55, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 3'149 bytes]]
07.05.2017 00:50:10, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 6'831 bytes]]
07.05.2017 00:50:30, Criptonauta: uno?
07.05.2017 00:50:35, Criptonauta: mismo con mi setup?
07.05.2017 00:50:41, Swifteagle: Si
07.05.2017 00:50:44, Criptonauta: mi setup no pued dar solament e uno
07.05.2017 00:50:52, Swifteagle: Espera yo miro como te puedo compartir mi spreadsheet
07.05.2017 00:51:04, Swifteagle: Puedo estar equivocado
07.05.2017 00:51:17, Criptonauta: estoy hablando aqui de ganancia en un trade
07.05.2017 00:51:22, Criptonauta: no la ganancia al dia
07.05.2017 00:51:52, Criptonauta: pq puede ser 45% de 0.0001
07.05.2017 00:52:06, Criptonauta: mientras 2% de 0,1 es mejor
07.05.2017 00:52:41, Criptonauta: y ni todo capital es negociado intero todos los dias
07.05.2017 00:52:42, Swifteagle: Entiendo
07.05.2017 00:52:46, Swifteagle: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oyxL5TigJnIke4cGSwNdx_FyhlKksnYICqK8_HSQ1Wg/pubhtml
07.05.2017 00:53:34, Swifteagle: eso es desde el 22 de abril
07.05.2017 00:53:38, Swifteagle: hasta hoy
07.05.2017 00:53:59, Swifteagle: Solo con un balance de 0.846
07.05.2017 00:54:35, Criptonauta: 2 semanas, no esta mal
07.05.2017 00:54:58, Swifteagle: muy contento... nuevamente.. gracias amigo por compartir con nosotros
07.05.2017 00:55:00, Criptonauta: más q 1% al dia
07.05.2017 00:55:02, Swifteagle: me ayudo mucho
07.05.2017 00:55:08, Criptonauta: con gusto ^^
07.05.2017 00:55:12, Swifteagle: porque no me fue muy bien el primer dia
07.05.2017 00:55:28, Swifteagle: Estoy tratando ahora con una cuenta solo de ETH
07.05.2017 00:55:58, Swifteagle: estoy utilizando con todas las monedas
07.05.2017 00:55:59, Swifteagle: 1/2/3 2/3/4 BS 2/3
EMA 0.02 and 0.04
Max latest prices 30
delay 10
07.05.2017 00:56:05, Swifteagle: apenas empeze ayer
07.05.2017 00:56:12, Swifteagle: ojala que me vaya bien
07.05.2017 00:56:23, Criptonauta: ah, la serial killer ^^
07.05.2017 00:56:33, Swifteagle: si
07.05.2017 00:56:40, Swifteagle: buena idea con ETH?
07.05.2017 00:57:11, Criptonauta: si, xp dificilmente va a conseguir mas que 4% en un daytrade con eth
07.05.2017 00:57:52, Swifteagle: Pues mira, la idea mia es acumular mas ETH porque creo que tiene buen futuro
07.05.2017 00:58:36, Swifteagle: entonces con las ganancias de BTC las estoy moviendo para hacer trading en ETH,.. o sera mejor seguir reinvirtiendo las ganancias de BTC en mas trades de BTC y luego compara ETH
07.05.2017 00:58:42, Swifteagle: Que opinas?
07.05.2017 00:59:03, Criptonauta: hace bien
07.05.2017 00:59:20, Criptonauta: el eth barato lo va poniendo para hacer mas eth
07.05.2017 01:00:24, Swifteagle: Te gusta ETH?
07.05.2017 01:00:28, Criptonauta: ahi mismo que compre eth mas caro, el costo extra es mitigado por el crescimiento del trade de eth x otras monedas
07.05.2017 01:01:24, Swifteagle: Ojala que ETH se vuelva un BTC en el futuro
07.05.2017 01:01:51, Swifteagle: y luego podamos manejar lamborghinis...
07.05.2017 01:01:57, Swifteagle: de que color va ser el tuyo?
08.05.2017 23:34:02, Swifteagle: que opinas de Polo?
08.05.2017 23:36:48, Criptonauta: que onde hay pump y leverage, está habiendo problemas y donde no hay, esta bien
09.05.2017 00:07:41, Swifteagle: Ojala que no se vuelva un Mt Gox
09.05.2017 00:08:04, Criptonauta: verdad
09.05.2017 00:08:21, Swifteagle: yo solo estoy con ellos, tu?
09.05.2017 00:08:32, Criptonauta: el groso esta alla
09.05.2017 00:08:38, Swifteagle: 👍
09.05.2017 00:08:43, Criptonauta: tengo uns 200 usd en bittrex
09.05.2017 00:09:11, Swifteagle: en bots?
09.05.2017 00:09:55, Criptonauta: si
09.05.2017 00:10:22, Swifteagle: oye hace cuanto estas trading?
09.05.2017 00:12:05, Criptonauta: activamente en daytrading? unos 3 meses
09.05.2017 00:12:36, Criptonauta: antes era esporadico, con las monedas de los proyectos que participava
09.05.2017 00:13:00, Criptonauta: y de las ico
09.05.2017 00:13:04, Criptonauta: pero solo converison
09.05.2017 00:14:40, Swifteagle: Te ha ido bien?
09.05.2017 00:15:01, Criptonauta: si, hoy he publicado el resultado de una cuenta de 67 dias
09.05.2017 00:15:07, Criptonauta: 2.57% al dia
09.05.2017 00:15:15, Swifteagle: donde lo publicaste?
09.05.2017 00:15:21, Criptonauta: al forum
09.05.2017 00:15:27, Swifteagle: voy a buscar
09.05.2017 00:15:31, Criptonauta: ^^
09.05.2017 00:16:16, Swifteagle: https://gunthy.org/index.php?topic=245.0
09.05.2017 00:16:32, Swifteagle: ?
09.05.2017 00:16:54, Swifteagle: Super bien
!
09.05.2017 00:17:09, Criptonauta: https://gunthy.org/index.php?topic=156.0
09.05.2017 00:18:15, Swifteagle: Tu vendes settings?
09.05.2017 00:18:37, Criptonauta: yup, dentre otros servicios
09.05.2017 00:18:51, Swifteagle: no lo sabia
09.05.2017 00:18:52, Criptonauta: pero he publicado dos al forum
09.05.2017 00:18:54, Swifteagle: cuentame
09.05.2017 00:19:21, Swifteagle: porque entonces publicaste este:
09.05.2017 00:19:22, Swifteagle: https://gunthy.org/index.php?topic=106.0
09.05.2017 00:20:13, Criptonauta: para que todos tengan oportunidad
09.05.2017 00:20:19, Swifteagle: cuanto cobras por los settings?
09.05.2017 00:21:37, Criptonauta: estoy definiendo un nuevo modelo, pero es basado en los trades
se es 0,.0x los trades, es mas barato que para lo que tradea 1 o mas btc por vez
09.05.2017 00:22:04, Criptonauta: y creo que sera por suscripcion
09.05.2017 00:22:45, Swifteagle: Entonces no estas vendiendo los acutales?
09.05.2017 00:22:52, Criptonauta: dentre los otros servicios que ya hago, como el management directo de los recursos
09.05.2017 00:23:12, Criptonauta: y consulting, pq al final no es solo el setup
09.05.2017 00:23:32, Criptonauta: el setup riende automaticamente, pero la performance mismo é un conjunto
09.05.2017 00:23:45, Swifteagle: performance de que?
09.05.2017 00:23:47, Swifteagle: VPS?
09.05.2017 00:23:51, Criptonauta: no
09.05.2017 00:23:52, Swifteagle: no entiendo esa parte
09.05.2017 00:23:55, Criptonauta: de buens trades
09.05.2017 00:24:04, Criptonauta: de 2% o mas al dia siempre
09.05.2017 00:24:22, Criptonauta: fuera los peces grandes
09.05.2017 00:24:30, Criptonauta: que son como bonus
09.05.2017 00:25:23, Criptonauta: hacer trades consistentes dia a dia
09.05.2017 00:25:27, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 29'932 bytes]]
09.05.2017 00:25:34, Criptonauta: sacar lo que gunbot puede realmente dar
09.05.2017 00:25:57, Swifteagle: Pero igual todo es por el bot... entonces no son los setting lo importante?
09.05.2017 00:26:10, Criptonauta: no como todo bot
09.05.2017 00:26:21, Criptonauta: este bot usted  lo liga y el te da profit
09.05.2017 00:26:39, Criptonauta: un profit minimo de 1% al dia se tradea todo su capital diariamente
09.05.2017 00:26:53, Criptonauta: no hay otro bot comercial que haga eso
09.05.2017 00:27:10, Criptonauta: pero claro
09.05.2017 00:27:28, Criptonauta: si quieres sacar mas, hay que dedicar un tiempo, estudiar sobre etc
09.05.2017 00:27:37, Swifteagle: Entonces tu no tienes un precio fijo de tus servicios?
09.05.2017 00:28:19, Criptonauta: dame un ejemplo de que te refieres
09.05.2017 00:28:35, Swifteagle: ok...
09.05.2017 00:28:55, Swifteagle: Ejempo... Gunbot cuesta 0.
09.05.2017 00:28:57, Swifteagle: 1
09.05.2017 00:29:13, Swifteagle: Alex spreadsheet0.07
09.05.2017 00:29:16, Swifteagle: etc
09.05.2017 00:29:42, Criptonauta: en caso de los setups no puede ser asi
09.05.2017 00:30:30, Criptonauta: ves?
09.05.2017 00:30:31, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 12'000 bytes]]
09.05.2017 00:31:09, Criptonauta: the one who makes trades with 1btc pays gunbot back in 1-3 days
09.05.2017 00:31:30, Criptonauta: if with 0.x, in weeks
09.05.2017 00:32:15, Criptonauta: i have to give the oportunity for those with 0.00x and 0.x and 0.0x to use my setting sand grow their capital
09.05.2017 00:32:27, Criptonauta: inclusive to purchase others services i offer
09.05.2017 00:33:24, Criptonauta: in counterparrt, the return from a 2btc guy returns me what i did not gained with the lower trades ones
09.05.2017 00:35:29, Swifteagle: I understand
09.05.2017 00:35:36, Swifteagle: so it is based on capital
09.05.2017 00:36:02, Swifteagle: Ok.. In my case I have 0.8
09.05.2017 00:36:10, Swifteagle: so what happens next?
09.05.2017 00:36:37, Criptonauta: this means your trades returns for you profits of 0.00x
09.05.2017 00:36:58, Swifteagle: aha
09.05.2017 00:37:02, Criptonauta: and that you need at least 70 trades with 1% profit to double your capital
09.05.2017 00:37:11, Criptonauta: more than 70 in fact
09.05.2017 00:37:12, Swifteagle: ok
09.05.2017 00:37:17, Criptonauta: so
09.05.2017 00:37:58, Criptonauta: if I provide a setting that instead of 1% per trad eyou have 3%, the time would be cut in 2/3 right?
09.05.2017 00:38:13, Swifteagle: Yes
09.05.2017 00:39:15, Criptonauta: so 70/3 = 23,3333, that would be the time to double the capital now
09.05.2017 00:39:52, Criptonauta: the difference of that is 46,66666
09.05.2017 00:40:27, Criptonauta: so i'd take a third or -.23 and you make the double in 46.6 instead of 70
09.05.2017 00:41:45, Criptonauta: or 2 thirds of the time you'd make without the new setup

after that, it wont be 46,6 days anymore, but 23.3
09.05.2017 00:41:54, Criptonauta: until u reach 5 btc
09.05.2017 00:42:02, Criptonauta: then only 46 trades are neeeded
09.05.2017 00:42:06, Swifteagle: so the charge is .23btc?
09.05.2017 00:42:40, Criptonauta: as we can see, it's not viable
09.05.2017 00:43:00, Criptonauta: for a 0.8 portfolio
09.05.2017 00:43:29, Criptonauta: what ab you, how much would you pay?
09.05.2017 00:43:37, Criptonauta: reversal interview lol
09.05.2017 00:44:23, Swifteagle: I guess it depends on how consistent it was...But I am happy to pay someone who is honest and willing to help
09.05.2017 00:45:08, Swifteagle: so do you only take on customers with a certain portfolio value?
09.05.2017 00:45:55, Criptonauta: ideally i cannot do that
09.05.2017 00:46:27, Criptonauta: but we still have the price dilema
09.05.2017 00:46:40, Swifteagle: I see where you are coming from
09.05.2017 00:47:02, Criptonauta: there no reason to release good settings to rich people only get richer
09.05.2017 00:47:57, Criptonauta: i gave them to some friends, everyone has to prosper
09.05.2017 00:48:21, Criptonauta: so in this case, i think i'd have to add a zero
09.05.2017 00:48:39, Swifteagle: in those settings, do they give you a rough idea of how much max balance needs to be traded?
09.05.2017 00:49:15, Criptonauta: some settings are kinda generic, suitable for most coins
09.05.2017 00:49:27, Criptonauta: or situations
09.05.2017 00:49:33, Criptonauta: serial killer for example
09.05.2017 00:49:39, Criptonauta: eth is a good target
09.05.2017 00:49:49, Criptonauta: if using candlestick 15 or 30
09.05.2017 00:50:07, Criptonauta: we see that it takes a long time to go fom bottom bb to top bb and vice versa
09.05.2017 00:50:22, Criptonauta: and that is hard to take more the 2.x. 3.x percent of it
09.05.2017 00:50:42, Criptonauta: thus 2/3/4 has a better chance than 1/1/10
09.05.2017 00:51:12, Criptonauta: as  infact is what happens
09.05.2017 00:51:28, Criptonauta: with bb, the same applies, adjusting bb's according to the coin
09.05.2017 00:52:13, Criptonauta: but 1/1/10 is generic and will trade even in eth case for exaple
09.05.2017 00:52:26, Criptonauta: with times somewhat different
09.05.2017 00:52:45, Swifteagle: I am really interested in your settings
09.05.2017 00:53:06, Criptonauta: how are your trades tonight?
09.05.2017 00:53:11, Criptonauta: or todayi n your case
09.05.2017 00:54:53, Swifteagle: 0.34% so far today
09.05.2017 00:55:14, Swifteagle: but I am getting 429 at the moment
09.05.2017 00:55:18, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 192'610 bytes]]
09.05.2017 00:55:18, Criptonauta: me too
09.05.2017 00:55:18, Swifteagle: you?
09.05.2017 00:55:42, Criptonauta: some coins yes, some not
09.05.2017 00:56:12, Criptonauta: yesterday i unbagged xrp with 356% in one and 174 in another
09.05.2017 00:56:25, Criptonauta: went from a 0.2 trade to 0.7 ^^
09.05.2017 00:56:39, Swifteagle: so how much max balance to trade would I use with your settings?
09.05.2017 00:56:43, Swifteagle: knowing I have 0.8
09.05.2017 00:56:52, Swifteagle: well Would have less... 0.6
09.05.2017 00:57:29, Criptonauta: if its a really good day for 2 or 3 coins, i'd split in them
09.05.2017 00:58:00, Criptonauta: if a regular day, i'd choose trades from 0.x to 0.0x
09.05.2017 00:58:24, Swifteagle: so in a good day for a coin you would go 0.3?
09.05.2017 00:58:54, Criptonauta: i have a test account where i trade 0.000x, to show that no matter the max amount, gunbot is profitable in the time proportional to the balance
09.05.2017 00:59:35, Criptonauta: and deal accouns like of my big client, where 2 btc came in a couple of days
09.05.2017 01:00:09, Criptonauta: now he's increasing his investment, so i'll be directly handling a substantial amount
09.05.2017 01:00:21, Criptonauta: it's like the opposite
09.05.2017 01:00:33, Criptonauta: and i want to work witl all of them in different ways
09.05.2017 01:01:12, Swifteagle: how do you manage that directly? does he give you access to his polo?
09.05.2017 01:02:08, Criptonauta: i created the account and shared details with him in this case, then he sent the amount
and there is a trusted part, which in this case is the Don himself
09.05.2017 01:02:40, Swifteagle: 👍
09.05.2017 01:02:42, Criptonauta: if i scam, my rep will to the dirt
09.05.2017 01:02:50, Criptonauta: of course it would still be possible
09.05.2017 01:03:02, Criptonauta: but i really want to make a living with gunbot
09.05.2017 01:03:12, Criptonauta: a long term relationship
09.05.2017 01:03:34, Criptonauta: and i'm admin here, moderator in forum
09.05.2017 01:03:49, Criptonauta: if i'd scam, i'd really mess up with gunbot
09.05.2017 01:03:59, Swifteagle: ofcourse
09.05.2017 01:04:08, Criptonauta: which would be th emost stupid thing in my life up to the moment olol
09.05.2017 01:04:17, Swifteagle: hahaha
09.05.2017 01:04:31, Criptonauta: since it's the only place that is making real money in so few time
09.05.2017 01:04:38, Criptonauta: and real money
09.05.2017 01:04:41, Criptonauta: not reais or dollars
09.05.2017 01:07:00, Swifteagle: ok, so here is a question for you... in my case what would be the lowest price you would sell your settings?
09.05.2017 01:07:19, Swifteagle: because I am interested... but at .23 would take a lot of % out of my balance
09.05.2017 01:07:51, Criptonauta: what would you ocnsider fair? ill take your price
09.05.2017 01:09:54, Swifteagle: Well I have 18 pages of trades so far.. in 3 from the 22 of April but have not double my balance
09.05.2017 01:11:09, Swifteagle: I think there are 50 trades per page
09.05.2017 01:11:29, Swifteagle: so 900 trades...
09.05.2017 01:12:11, Swifteagle: and you think I can double my balance with 23 trades?
09.05.2017 01:13:48, Criptonauta: let me do some math
09.05.2017 01:17:19, Swifteagle: 👍
09.05.2017 01:22:19, Criptonauta: here
09.05.2017 01:22:20, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 10'363 bytes]]
09.05.2017 01:24:44, Criptonauta: see the magic of compound rates ^^
09.05.2017 01:25:16, Swifteagle: yes compound is amazing
09.05.2017 01:25:21, Criptonauta: the issue is not in the gain, Felipe
the jump of the cat it to be able to trade al the capital everyday
09.05.2017 01:25:38, Criptonauta: or to make trades withgain that compensates this
09.05.2017 01:25:50, Criptonauta: in cas eof not thading the whole balance
09.05.2017 01:27:06, Criptonauta: the rate i gained in my main account in a day is equivalent of 5 months in a savings account here in brazil
09.05.2017 01:27:33, Swifteagle: I undestand
09.05.2017 01:28:49, Swifteagle: well I will make you an offer... I can give you 0.1 now and then the rest once I have double my balance. obviously you would have to trust me that I will give you the rest. Which I rather do that and have you as a friend
09.05.2017 01:29:03, Criptonauta: deal
09.05.2017 01:29:15, Swifteagle: so how do we do it?
09.05.2017 01:29:16, Criptonauta: no need to a trusted part
09.05.2017 01:29:31, Criptonauta: let me first explain how i use to work
09.05.2017 01:29:43, Criptonauta: i have that sheet that i sent you
09.05.2017 01:30:05, Criptonauta: so i compare what i'm currently talking now with setting A and what will come from setting B
09.05.2017 01:30:21, Criptonauta: the best would be to know your actual average
09.05.2017 01:30:51, Criptonauta: when you use a new setup, you take note of the coin and its setup in the sheet
09.05.2017 01:31:11, Criptonauta: this way you'll be able to know what is doing better in the moment, if bb or sg for example
09.05.2017 01:31:30, Criptonauta: and always try to take advantage of the bolloinger band
09.05.2017 01:31:45, Criptonauta: starting the bot when it is in the lower part
09.05.2017 01:31:59, Criptonauta: so you can also judge if the tren is up or down
09.05.2017 01:32:06, Criptonauta: trend*
09.05.2017 01:32:30, Criptonauta: after a period, you get to know that serial killer is good for this and for that
09.05.2017 01:32:41, Criptonauta: but all of them will be trading
09.05.2017 01:32:57, Criptonauta: sometime sthey ge tlittle bags, due to timing or due to market
09.05.2017 01:33:13, Criptonauta: serial killer might hold 1-2 days
09.05.2017 01:33:31, Criptonauta: this is why entering with the bot in the best moment is important
09.05.2017 01:34:00, Criptonauta: 1/1/10 will buy quick, but if it's ok you can also try 2/2/10
09.05.2017 01:34:13, Criptonauta: most of the coins accept buy up to 3%
09.05.2017 01:34:19, Criptonauta: but 2 is for sure
09.05.2017 01:34:48, Criptonauta: lemme show
09.05.2017 01:35:48, Swifteagle: k
09.05.2017 01:36:27, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 29'710 bytes]]
09.05.2017 01:36:37, Criptonauta: this is the complete data in the sheet
09.05.2017 01:37:25, Criptonauta: with bb im' taking good results in the borders? -0.5 bottom 1 or -1 top
09.05.2017 01:37:42, Criptonauta: theres also a biiiiig secret that i'll tell you
09.05.2017 01:37:52, Criptonauta: in bb template
09.05.2017 01:38:20, Criptonauta: you can set max last orders to 1

max last orders, not max latest prices!
09.05.2017 01:38:38, Criptonauta: it'll make it lighterweight
09.05.2017 01:38:49, Criptonauta: less cpu consumption
09.05.2017 01:39:00, Swifteagle: oh nice
09.05.2017 01:39:17, Swifteagle: so is that in the config?
09.05.2017 01:39:26, Criptonauta: yup
09.05.2017 01:39:35, Criptonauta: i'mm prepare templates, wait a min pls
09.05.2017 01:39:38, Criptonauta: i'll
09.05.2017 01:40:02, Swifteagle: good to know thanks
09.05.2017 01:40:49, Swifteagle: Ok So i will send you the 0.1 and you would send me a spreadsheet?
09.05.2017 01:42:39, Criptonauta: letme send the stuff and you send la plata, no worry
09.05.2017 01:45:22, Swifteagle: Andre I have a problem.. probably has to be tomorrow.. the bot must of bought something :s
09.05.2017 01:45:30, Swifteagle: [[Document, size 13'022 bytes]]
09.05.2017 01:46:09, Swifteagle: Sorry about that... But I will definitely get them from you. I am very much interested
09.05.2017 01:46:15, Criptonauta: haha
09.05.2017 01:46:17, Criptonauta: no prob
09.05.2017 01:46:23, Criptonauta: you can send me tomorrow
09.05.2017 01:46:27, Swifteagle: Ok
09.05.2017 01:46:29, Swifteagle: cool
09.05.2017 01:46:34, Criptonauta: i'm finishing the setups and u can try it
09.05.2017 01:46:41, Swifteagle: what is your address?
09.05.2017 01:54:38, Criptonauta: do you go in two digits coin?
09.05.2017 01:54:47, Criptonauta: like sc = 0.000000xx
09.05.2017 01:54:48, Criptonauta: ?
09.05.2017 01:55:07, Swifteagle: sorry what do you mean? I dont understand
09.05.2017 01:55:16, Swifteagle: oh
09.05.2017 01:55:19, Criptonauta: do you trade SC coin for example?
09.05.2017 01:55:29, Criptonauta: that has price like 0.000000XX
09.05.2017 01:55:35, Swifteagle: Just give me whatever you think is good
09.05.2017 01:55:36, Swifteagle: :)
09.05.2017 01:55:56, Criptonauta: in this case, no matter the setup u are using, the buy lvl and sell must be above 3
09.05.2017 01:56:37, Criptonauta: cause if the buy price is 0.000000711 it'll only see 0.00000071
09.05.2017 01:56:49, Criptonauta: and then it'll sell at loss of nule
09.05.2017 01:56:57, Swifteagle: I see
09.05.2017 01:59:34, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 5'189 bytes]]
09.05.2017 02:00:21, Swifteagle: So I will be trading only 4 coins?
09.05.2017 02:00:50, Criptonauta: nope
09.05.2017 02:01:18, Criptonauta: with those setups you can devise your group of pairs to trade
09.05.2017 02:01:26, Criptonauta: i usually trade 18024
09.05.2017 02:01:28, Criptonauta: ops
09.05.2017 02:01:30, Criptonauta: 18-24
09.05.2017 02:01:44, Criptonauta: used to trade more, but i'm tryng to prime quality now
09.05.2017 02:01:54, Swifteagle: so will you give me a list, and which setting to use with what coin?
09.05.2017 02:02:08, Criptonauta: ah
09.05.2017 02:02:13, Criptonauta: u are windows user right?
09.05.2017 02:02:18, Swifteagle: correct
09.05.2017 02:02:19, Criptonauta: hehe ok
09.05.2017 02:02:25, Criptonauta: this is how it works
09.05.2017 02:03:14, Criptonauta: for SG templates, you just make a copy of the file and rename it like the pair you want: BTC-FTC-config.js for instance
09.05.2017 02:03:41, Swifteagle: Yes, but is there a better setting for a particular pair?
09.05.2017 02:03:49, Criptonauta: for BB templates, you make a copy and rename them BB-BTC_XXX.js
09.05.2017 02:04:02, Criptonauta: or copy the setting to the gui template pair creator
09.05.2017 02:04:06, Criptonauta: yes
09.05.2017 02:04:11, Criptonauta: lemme show
09.05.2017 02:04:23, Criptonauta: main aaplied to serial killer
09.05.2017 02:04:49, Criptonauta: but as i said, no matte rif you place a certain setup in a "wrong pair", it will still trade
09.05.2017 02:04:59, Criptonauta: just a min
09.05.2017 02:06:25, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 314'205 bytes]]
09.05.2017 02:06:25, Criptonauta: the the range of the tunnel?
09.05.2017 02:06:28, Criptonauta: see*
09.05.2017 02:06:51, Swifteagle: yes
09.05.2017 02:06:57, Criptonauta: this is the relative look of what gunbot sees
09.05.2017 02:07:39, Criptonauta: with serial killer, all the corridor would have been a trading zone
09.05.2017 02:07:58, Criptonauta: while wth BB at borders it would have less
09.05.2017 02:08:00, Criptonauta: wait
09.05.2017 02:11:59, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 132'621 bytes]]
09.05.2017 02:12:07, Criptonauta: i hope it illustrates
09.05.2017 02:13:14, Swifteagle: Andre, With set max last orders to 1 is that in BB-BTC_ARK
09.05.2017 02:13:19, Swifteagle: and it is set to 500
09.05.2017 02:13:25, Swifteagle: is that the one?
09.05.2017 02:15:20, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 139'732 bytes]]
09.05.2017 02:15:27, Criptonauta: max last orders 1
09.05.2017 02:15:33, Criptonauta: max lastest prices = 300
09.05.2017 02:16:13, Criptonauta: sorry if still is 500.
M.L.P = 300
M.L.O. = 1
09.05.2017 02:22:04, Swifteagle: do you have a list of best pairs?
09.05.2017 02:23:21, Criptonauta: i look at them everyday
09.05.2017 02:23:30, Swifteagle: I see
09.05.2017 02:23:52, Swifteagle: and then you apply the settings depending on how they are on the chart
09.05.2017 02:23:59, Criptonauta: but usually ETH, SC, FCT, DGB ar ein myy list
09.05.2017 02:24:09, Criptonauta: yup, correct
09.05.2017 02:24:28, Criptonauta: maid with some regularity
09.05.2017 02:24:56, Criptonauta: xem, xrp
09.05.2017 02:24:58, Swifteagle: what happens when you go to sleep?
09.05.2017 02:25:08, Criptonauta: i leave them working
09.05.2017 02:25:35, Swifteagle: with the last setting used?
09.05.2017 02:25:41, Swifteagle: or do you have a preference?
09.05.2017 02:26:32, Criptonauta: normally I go 2/2/10 3/3/30 or 50
and BB -0.5 bottom and -1 or 1 top
09.05.2017 02:26:53, Criptonauta: if too lateral but not tooooo narrow, then serial killer
09.05.2017 02:27:15, Criptonauta: but Rhama, for example, loves Serial Killer
09.05.2017 02:29:55, Swifteagle: what should i do with my existing trades?
09.05.2017 02:30:11, Criptonauta: como así?
09.05.2017 02:30:43, Swifteagle: The ones that I already have open with gunbot 2.04?
09.05.2017 02:31:07, Swifteagle: do I just start the new bot and let it take care of them?
09.05.2017 02:31:56, Criptonauta: 2.04 is bolling band right?
09.05.2017 02:32:07, Criptonauta: or sg only and 1000t?
09.05.2017 02:34:26, Swifteagle: I only using sg
09.05.2017 02:35:15, Criptonauta: then no mod is needed
09.05.2017 02:35:31, Criptonauta: just reopen your pair sin case of the same folder
09.05.2017 02:35:56, Criptonauta: or if using a new folder, transfer your pairs and their -save.json files
09.05.2017 02:36:21, Criptonauta: cause they store your open orders
09.05.2017 02:42:48, Swifteagle: and since I have a low balance, what should I do in regards to max trade?
09.05.2017 02:44:45, Criptonauta: how many pair are you runnig or intending to run?
09.05.2017 02:45:00, Swifteagle: I was running 32
09.05.2017 02:45:06, Swifteagle: but happy to take suggestions
09.05.2017 02:46:52, Criptonauta: with 0.7, it could be 14 0.05 pairs or 24 0.0025
09.05.2017 02:47:16, Swifteagle: ok
09.05.2017 02:48:20, Criptonauta: The address is 13ZgV8UQqZ4Xd8JzKnBdQrBqnuTV9iUCR8
It can be later today as we talked, no worries

And I thank you very much for your trust. My support is almost 24/7 ^^
09.05.2017 02:48:44, Swifteagle: Thank you to for trusting me!
09.05.2017 02:49:36, Swifteagle: que horas son en Brasil?
09.05.2017 02:50:42, Criptonauta: 02:50
09.05.2017 02:50:50, Swifteagle: am
09.05.2017 02:50:51, Swifteagle: ?
09.05.2017 02:57:13, Swifteagle: Andre tu tienes Skype?
09.05.2017 02:57:37, Criptonauta: tenho mas nao uso muito
09.05.2017 02:57:46, Criptonauta: ashtorres, André Torres
09.05.2017 02:57:51, Criptonauta: am
09.05.2017 02:58:06, Criptonauta: esse horario tem atividde chinesa no mercado ne
09.05.2017 02:58:23, Criptonauta: quando eu trabalhava no comercio exterior tbm fazia muito negocio essa hora
09.05.2017 02:59:18, Criptonauta: BUYLVL1: 1,
BUYLVL2: 2,
BUYLVL3: 3,
SELLLVL1: 2,
SELLLVL2: 3,
SELLLVL3: 4,
09.05.2017 02:59:44, Criptonauta: grc
09.05.2017 02:59:48, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 54'595 bytes]]
09.05.2017 02:59:59, Criptonauta: foi ha pouco
09.05.2017 03:00:07, Swifteagle: wrong chat? lol
09.05.2017 03:00:08, Swifteagle: ?
09.05.2017 03:00:17, Criptonauta: durant eo dia e agorinha
09.05.2017 03:00:35, Swifteagle: Español pls
09.05.2017 03:00:36, Swifteagle: hahahah
09.05.2017 03:00:58, Criptonauta: ah si
09.05.2017 03:01:01, Criptonauta: sorry heheh
09.05.2017 03:01:17, Swifteagle: cuantos lenguajes hablas?
09.05.2017 03:01:33, Criptonauta: que cuanto trabajaba con comercio exterior tambien hacia muchos negocios con chinos este horario
09.05.2017 03:01:52, Swifteagle: Si traduje eso en google
09.05.2017 03:01:54, Swifteagle: :)
09.05.2017 03:01:59, Criptonauta: falo o portugues o espanhol e o ingles
ai to num italiano meio basico meio intermediario
09.05.2017 03:02:00, Swifteagle: trading?
09.05.2017 03:02:13, Criptonauta: no
09.05.2017 03:02:18, Criptonauta: importacion y exportacion
09.05.2017 03:02:22, Swifteagle: oh wow
09.05.2017 03:02:27, Swifteagle: ya no?
09.05.2017 03:02:31, Criptonauta: ya no
09.05.2017 03:02:34, Swifteagle: debe ser un buen negocio
09.05.2017 03:02:35, Criptonauta: mucho negocio sucio
09.05.2017 03:02:40, Swifteagle: ahh
09.05.2017 03:02:50, Swifteagle: para no pagar impuestos?
09.05.2017 03:02:52, Criptonauta: y no me gustab mas la vida de ejecutivo
09.05.2017 03:02:57, Criptonauta: si, exactamente
09.05.2017 03:03:07, Swifteagle: oye tu como compras btc?
09.05.2017 03:03:38, Swifteagle: me gustaria comprar mas, pero los unicos lugares que conosco son mas caras y depronton tambien reportan al govierno
09.05.2017 03:03:44, Swifteagle: y me gustaria que fuera mas privado
09.05.2017 03:05:37, Criptonauta: compro directament econ personas de confianza y en exchanges en brasil, que hasta un cierto montantante no reporta
09.05.2017 03:05:55, Swifteagle: 👍
09.05.2017 03:06:21, Swifteagle: Andre que pena contigo... pero estoy un poco confundido con los files que me mandaste
09.05.2017 03:06:23, Swifteagle: disculpame
09.05.2017 03:06:37, Criptonauta: no prob, diga
09.05.2017 03:06:50, Swifteagle: Bueno, entonces tengo 4
09.05.2017 03:07:02, Swifteagle: Los copio al folder de 3.0.1
09.05.2017 03:07:10, Criptonauta: no es necessario
09.05.2017 03:07:16, Swifteagle: oh ok
09.05.2017 03:07:28, Criptonauta: se usa a windows, crea a los pares con la configuracion que esta en el archivo
09.05.2017 03:07:51, Criptonauta: abralo con un txt bueno commo notepad ++ o sublime text
09.05.2017 03:08:04, Criptonauta: ahi solo traspasa los datos
09.05.2017 03:09:11, Swifteagle: let me try that
09.05.2017 03:10:10, Swifteagle: so make a pair... then open the file that has been created and then edit it. copy and paste your file setting and save?
09.05.2017 03:10:25, Criptonauta: nope, lemme show
09.05.2017 03:10:31, Swifteagle: sorry Andre
09.05.2017 03:10:33, Swifteagle: I feel bad
09.05.2017 03:14:31, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 220'323 bytes]]
09.05.2017 03:14:36, Criptonauta: haha no need to that
09.05.2017 03:17:37, Swifteagle: I SEE!
09.05.2017 03:17:58, Criptonauta: lol
09.05.2017 03:18:40, Criptonauta: in linux is all manual, but we are coming up with something that'll make you forget windows for gunbot, forever ^^
09.05.2017 03:18:49, Criptonauta: just eed some more time
09.05.2017 03:19:09, Criptonauta: so i ask you secrecy for this little info
09.05.2017 03:20:28, Swifteagle: when is that coming? And yes I will keep my mouth shut
09.05.2017 03:22:51, Swifteagle: Andre I am looking at ETH at the moment, 24h 15min chart... and from what I can see it is better to apply sg serial killer here
09.05.2017 03:23:03, Swifteagle: Would you agree?
09.05.2017 03:23:59, Criptonauta: one moment
09.05.2017 03:24:08, Swifteagle: 👍
09.05.2017 03:25:32, Criptonauta: totally agree
09.05.2017 03:25:48, Swifteagle: cool, I understand now..
09.05.2017 03:26:25, Swifteagle: you didn't explain kickass variant
09.05.2017 03:26:34, Criptonauta: some moents before, it could have been a great moment for 2/2/10 in ETH
09.05.2017 03:27:07, Criptonauta: but it happens once in a while, and in opposition the pattern for serial iller is more constant
09.05.2017 03:28:40, Criptonauta: KassV concept is to set a minumum buy of 2 or 3 according to the coin and to try to get moments like this
09.05.2017 03:28:43, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 8'426 bytes]]
09.05.2017 03:29:09, Swifteagle: and what about bb conservative vs borders
09.05.2017 03:29:36, Criptonauta: the same applies for the selling, a stable sell but not missing igher gain opport
09.05.2017 03:30:05, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 2'643 bytes]]
09.05.2017 03:30:10, Criptonauta: or
09.05.2017 03:30:55, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 11'045 bytes]]
09.05.2017 03:31:12, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 14'187 bytes]]
09.05.2017 03:31:54, Criptonauta: see as it remains a lot of its time neither too much to the top nor the bottom?
09.05.2017 03:32:11, Criptonauta: but it still have an interesting variation
09.05.2017 03:33:00, Criptonauta: so you can adjust the distance towards the middle, according to the coin
09.05.2017 03:33:19, Criptonauta: a high corridor, some more %
09.05.2017 03:33:30, Criptonauta: a tigh one, less
09.05.2017 03:33:38, Swifteagle: Ok
09.05.2017 03:33:51, Swifteagle: You should make video tutorials
09.05.2017 03:33:52, Swifteagle: hahaha
09.05.2017 03:33:55, Swifteagle: would help so much
09.05.2017 03:33:56, Criptonauta: é como llenar un vaso de agua y dejar un dedito sin llenar
09.05.2017 03:34:21, Criptonauta: y cuando lo tomas, deja un dedito sin tomar
09.05.2017 03:35:02, Swifteagle: entiendo
09.05.2017 03:35:37, Criptonauta: es mas o menos como serial killer, version bb
09.05.2017 03:35:53, Criptonauta: con la diferencia que puedes tambien setar el gain
09.05.2017 03:36:22, Swifteagle: [[Document, size 267'516 bytes]]
09.05.2017 03:36:23, Criptonauta: caso la moneda tenga momentos mas estables
09.05.2017 03:36:25, Swifteagle: Should I just copy your coins?
09.05.2017 03:36:28, Swifteagle: or bad idea?
09.05.2017 03:36:30, Criptonauta: sin armar a la bb
09.05.2017 03:36:53, Criptonauta: soy yo!
09.05.2017 03:37:02, Criptonauta: hmm no se
09.05.2017 03:37:08, Criptonauta: las mas verdes si
09.05.2017 03:37:47, Criptonauta: rep varias vezes me decepciona 😞
09.05.2017 03:38:01, Criptonauta: dcr es hodl cierto
09.05.2017 03:38:11, Criptonauta: hodl lungo
09.05.2017 03:38:25, Criptonauta: y/o tickets
09.05.2017 03:39:38, Swifteagle: Ok gracias
09.05.2017 03:40:08, Swifteagle: Tu vas a hacer video tutorials?
09.05.2017 03:40:32, Swifteagle: cause that would be awesome.. would make it easier for you as well when new customers come along
09.05.2017 03:40:43, Criptonauta: Será?
09.05.2017 03:40:55, Swifteagle: Absolutamente
09.05.2017 03:41:06, Swifteagle: I see the value in what you are doing now
09.05.2017 03:41:15, Criptonauta: it would be needed some time for that
09.05.2017 03:41:22, Swifteagle: but I honestly think it needs a bit more structure.. specially for us noobs
09.05.2017 03:41:26, Criptonauta: i'm working on the system as i talked
09.05.2017 03:41:32, Criptonauta: it'll give me more free time
09.05.2017 03:41:39, Swifteagle: Or even more pics
09.05.2017 03:41:44, Swifteagle: [[Photo]]
09.05.2017 03:41:44, Criptonauta: could you explain?
09.05.2017 03:41:59, Swifteagle: Pictures like that to show BB, bb variant
09.05.2017 03:42:20, Swifteagle: SG serial killer and kickass variant
09.05.2017 03:42:27, Swifteagle: pitures make it really easy
09.05.2017 03:42:53, Criptonauta: it's in the plans, to systemize it. i've been focusing on the system dev, but you are right
09.05.2017 03:43:19, Swifteagle: Pictures are great
09.05.2017 03:43:26, Swifteagle: the ones you sent me make total sense
09.05.2017 03:43:31, Swifteagle: so keep them for the next noob
09.05.2017 03:43:33, Swifteagle: :)
09.05.2017 03:43:34, Criptonauta: and what would you be a reasonable price for ppl with trades of 1-2 btc, and 3-5?
09.05.2017 03:43:49, Criptonauta: would think*
09.05.2017 03:45:09, Swifteagle: That is a hard one...But you could always just have a price for all regardless of their balance, because they will get the same information
09.05.2017 03:45:35, Swifteagle: You could say, everyone pay 0.x amount
09.05.2017 03:47:00, Criptonauta: well
09.05.2017 03:47:31, Criptonauta: after you using them for a week or so, you tell me if they + the service worth more or not
09.05.2017 03:47:41, Criptonauta: could t be?
09.05.2017 03:48:07, Swifteagle: Yes, I will give you honest feedback
09.05.2017 03:48:36, Criptonauta: and also if you like, to vouch for me in the forum
09.05.2017 03:48:41, Swifteagle: actually, I have an idea for you
09.05.2017 03:48:45, Criptonauta: rep is everything
09.05.2017 03:48:50, Criptonauta: really?
09.05.2017 03:48:59, Criptonauta: dime pls ^^
09.05.2017 03:49:00, Swifteagle: why not have a website... where you just put out a signal
09.05.2017 03:49:08, Swifteagle: people pay you for the signal...
09.05.2017 03:49:49, Swifteagle: example... Today... here are 24 pairs = settings... and you update them everyday.. just like you do your own trading
09.05.2017 03:49:58, Swifteagle: people pay you to be part of the signal
09.05.2017 03:50:00, Criptonauta: heheheheheheheheheeheheheheehehhehehe
09.05.2017 03:50:05, Swifteagle: Could be monthly
09.05.2017 03:50:10, Criptonauta: lemme show a lillt secret ^^
09.05.2017 03:50:20, Criptonauta: you'll like it ^^
09.05.2017 03:50:22, Swifteagle: That is the best way in my view!
09.05.2017 03:50:31, Swifteagle: dale muestrame!
09.05.2017 03:51:40, Criptonauta: Total secreto de estado!!!!!!
09.05.2017 03:51:40, Criptonauta: {{FWD: Criptonauta, 08.05.2017 19:35:26}}
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09.05.2017 03:53:16, Criptonauta: not in a website
09.05.2017 03:53:23, Criptonauta: directly in your gunbot!!!
09.05.2017 03:54:07, Criptonauta: no more fearful windows users losing resources for windows own system when linux is much much better
09.05.2017 03:54:18, Criptonauta: it just missed facilities
09.05.2017 03:54:22, Criptonauta: until now
09.05.2017 03:56:00, Criptonauta: setups
coaching
cryptoastrology with the best crypto technical analyst from this group (not me ofc)
other tools
automatic updates of setups via api
easy monitoring
easy pair customization
easy pair creating
09.05.2017 03:56:04, Swifteagle: Looks great!
09.05.2017 03:56:23, Swifteagle: how much is that going to be?
09.05.2017 03:56:27, Swifteagle: I like it a lot
09.05.2017 03:57:11, Criptonauta: it depends, it goes since the basic system up to the whole implementation for big clients who doesnt want to have the work
09.05.2017 03:57:24, Criptonauta: but price is still not defined
09.05.2017 03:57:37, Criptonauta: it'll be accescible though
09.05.2017 03:58:23, Criptonauta: current clients will have a discount, like gun did with us
09.05.2017 03:59:26, Swifteagle: You know how you would make even more money...
09.05.2017 03:59:49, Swifteagle: If you could keep a % of monthly profit for each client
09.05.2017 04:00:05, Swifteagle: like the lending bot
09.05.2017 04:00:11, Swifteagle: but now sure if that is possible
09.05.2017 04:00:20, Criptonauta: como asi?
09.05.2017 04:03:46, Swifteagle: tu sabes cual es lending bot?
09.05.2017 04:03:51, Criptonauta: si
09.05.2017 04:04:06, Criptonauta: no lo he usado pero lo conozco
09.05.2017 04:04:14, Swifteagle: They take a % of monthly profit
09.05.2017 04:04:37, Swifteagle: so lets say 10%
09.05.2017 04:04:51, Swifteagle: but not sure how you could it..
09.05.2017 04:08:28, Criptonauta: con la suscripcion a servicios
09.05.2017 04:08:58, Swifteagle: No hay que pagar para usar.. solo en las ganacias
09.05.2017 04:09:11, Criptonauta: yo hago eso con los que gestiono fundos
09.05.2017 04:09:28, Criptonauta: hay tambien un valor de entrada, pero es otro caso
09.05.2017 04:11:13, Swifteagle: Te va ir muy bien
09.05.2017 04:11:17, Swifteagle: te deseo lo mejor!
09.05.2017 04:11:39, Criptonauta: muchisimas gracias
09.05.2017 04:11:43, Criptonauta: a todos nosotros
09.05.2017 04:12:19, Criptonauta: pq setups y otros aprenziados q vamos teniendo siempre agregando mas valor y mas bitcoin
09.05.2017 04:12:54, Swifteagle: Pronto vas hacer mucho dinero.. que que en trading :)
09.05.2017 04:13:25, Criptonauta: al lque todo parece, si! ^^
increible este mundo de las cripto
09.05.2017 04:13:34, Criptonauta: algo como oro siglos atras
09.05.2017 04:13:41, Swifteagle: si
09.05.2017 04:14:13, Swifteagle: hay buena posibilidad de hacer dinero.. pero tambien perderlo, muy volatil
09.05.2017 04:14:29, Swifteagle: Oye no veo Time delay price.... 10?
09.05.2017 04:15:05, Criptonauta: si, claro. mi meta aca es usar a favor los compuerstores para cambiar el 1.46 orignal en 5, para q disminua aun mas la cantidad de trades
09.05.2017 04:15:32, Criptonauta: ahi destos 5, se doblan en 10
09.05.2017 04:15:40, Criptonauta: 5 va para cold wallet
09.05.2017 04:15:58, Swifteagle: Tu con cuanto empezaste?
09.05.2017 04:16:02, Criptonauta: 5 para ser otros 10, entoces 5 para cold, repite el loop
09.05.2017 04:16:06, Criptonauta: 1.46
09.05.2017 04:16:13, Swifteagle: Ya estas en 5?
09.05.2017 04:17:34, Swifteagle: Yo quiero hacer lo mismo que tu
09.05.2017 04:17:38, Criptonauta: no, en tres
09.05.2017 04:18:03, Criptonauta: agora con esta muerte de alts, a 2.48
09.05.2017 04:18:08, Swifteagle: super bien
09.05.2017 04:19:19, Swifteagle: Andre, Time delay, 10 y por cada new pair add 1?
09.05.2017 04:19:27, Swifteagle: 10,11,12,13,14,etc?
09.05.2017 04:19:37, Criptonauta: no
09.05.2017 04:19:56, Criptonauta: yo fui al maximo de testes para deley
09.05.2017 04:19:59, Criptonauta: delay
09.05.2017 04:20:11, Criptonauta: he hecho 60 apis para rodar 1 par per api
09.05.2017 04:20:30, Criptonauta: delay en 13, 9, 7
09.05.2017 04:20:55, Criptonauta: pero api es solo miitad de la ecuacion
09.05.2017 04:26:03, Swifteagle: Yo tengo dos APIs
09.05.2017 04:26:22, Swifteagle: Podria hacer 10 por API
09.05.2017 04:26:35, Swifteagle: pairs
09.05.2017 04:26:35, Criptonauta: no va ha cambiar
09.05.2017 04:27:06, Criptonauta: a eso haria solo la solucion de tambien distintos ips
09.05.2017 04:27:27, Criptonauta: 1 api/ip per pair
09.05.2017 04:27:34, Criptonauta: delay 3
09.05.2017 04:27:38, Criptonauta: buuuuuut
09.05.2017 04:27:59, Criptonauta: i did run it in delay 3 1 ip/api
09.05.2017 04:28:17, Criptonauta: and things got well until gunbot command
09.05.2017 04:28:24, Criptonauta: "need faster, yes"
09.05.2017 04:28:35, Criptonauta: then it got out out control
09.05.2017 04:28:39, Swifteagle: so what do you recommend when people run 10 or more pairs for 1 API?
09.05.2017 04:28:40, Criptonauta: delay halving
09.05.2017 04:28:51, Criptonauta: collapse
09.05.2017 04:29:13, Criptonauta: gun is very right when he defends the point of delay 120, delay 80
09.05.2017 04:29:45, Criptonauta: in the conservative rate, it will still do many many trades since there is "need faster' function
09.05.2017 04:30:00, Criptonauta: the more pairs the more the problem
09.05.2017 04:30:08, Criptonauta: so 40 is accepable
09.05.2017 04:30:18, Swifteagle: So how would you do it... 10 , 20,30,40 etc?
09.05.2017 04:30:19, Criptonauta: and can try to lower 5 by five
09.05.2017 04:30:26, Criptonauta: nope
09.05.2017 04:30:28, Criptonauta: all 40
09.05.2017 04:30:34, Swifteagle: oh ok
09.05.2017 04:30:59, Criptonauta: when need faster is actavted, it will halve, and then halve agian
09.05.2017 04:31:06, Criptonauta: and again if needed
09.05.2017 04:31:17, Criptonauta: so you can calibrate it
09.05.2017 04:31:28, Swifteagle: What does need faster mean?
09.05.2017 04:31:28, Criptonauta: less load in a coin that moves slowly
09.05.2017 04:31:42, Criptonauta: it halves delay time
09.05.2017 04:31:53, Swifteagle: ok
09.05.2017 04:32:00, Criptonauta: so gb can keep up with the trend reading
09.05.2017 04:32:12, Swifteagle: your trick made the bot lighter
09.05.2017 04:32:21, Swifteagle: was very heavy before and I could not use it
09.05.2017 04:33:50, Swifteagle: 429 AGAIN.... POLO is crazy today!
09.05.2017 04:33:54, Swifteagle: :S
09.05.2017 04:34:00, Criptonauta: 1 instead of many last orders?
09.05.2017 04:36:04, Swifteagle: it comes and goes
09.05.2017 04:40:14, Swifteagle: At the moment all pairs I have had a look at are SG serial killer
09.05.2017 04:40:48, Criptonauta: my money is in alts and so many opportunites now
09.05.2017 04:41:25, Swifteagle: some people are saying in the main chat that they are turning their bots ofs
09.05.2017 04:41:27, Swifteagle: off
09.05.2017 04:41:31, Swifteagle: because of the dump
09.05.2017 04:41:40, Swifteagle: they dont want to be left holdings bags
09.05.2017 04:41:44, Swifteagle: incase the bots buy high
09.05.2017 04:42:17, Criptonauta: 👍
09.05.2017 04:42:21, Criptonauta: the same
09.05.2017 04:42:38, Swifteagle: oh you are turning yours off as well?
09.05.2017 04:43:03, Swifteagle: shit, I was turning ming on
09.05.2017 04:43:08, Criptonauta: no
09.05.2017 04:43:13, Criptonauta: mine are on
09.05.2017 04:43:20, Criptonauta: that is, if 49 allows
09.05.2017 04:43:24, Criptonauta: 429
09.05.2017 04:43:32, Criptonauta: i meant i agree with you
09.05.2017 04:43:40, Criptonauta: no reason to turn the bot off
09.05.2017 04:45:10, Swifteagle: Andre, for XEM what would you use at the moment?
09.05.2017 04:45:20, Swifteagle: Seems like a BB
09.05.2017 04:52:17, Criptonauta: la bb o tbm la 2-2-10

it must pass the middle of bb next round

it'll drop a little and probably win the resistance
if so, both are good
09.05.2017 04:53:59, Swifteagle: Andre disculpame... La bb looks a little confusing compared to the Serial killer
09.05.2017 04:54:40, Swifteagle: [[Document, size 195'448 bytes]]
09.05.2017 04:57:35, Swifteagle: [[Document, size 112'089 bytes]]
09.05.2017 04:57:39, Swifteagle: Lo hice bien?
09.05.2017 04:58:13, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 268'841 bytes]]
09.05.2017 04:58:58, Swifteagle: Thank you for the picture
09.05.2017 04:59:10, Swifteagle: Great explanation
09.05.2017 04:59:19, Criptonauta: ^^
09.05.2017 04:59:21, Criptonauta: thanks
09.05.2017 04:59:23, Swifteagle: What I meant is, did I put the right settings?
09.05.2017 04:59:26, Criptonauta: yup
09.05.2017 04:59:36, Swifteagle: Because the file when open looks different to SG
09.05.2017 04:59:40, Swifteagle: it is more messy
09.05.2017 05:00:42, Criptonauta: yup
09.05.2017 05:00:54, Criptonauta: the order in gui and files are diff
09.05.2017 05:01:01, Swifteagle: hold on, but if Kass V buy and then KassV sell, wouldnt that be a lost?
09.05.2017 05:02:31, Criptonauta: ops
09.05.2017 05:02:41, Criptonauta: inverted subtitles
09.05.2017 05:02:51, Criptonauta: thanks for pointing
09.05.2017 05:05:54, Swifteagle: 👍
09.05.2017 05:05:56, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 389'000 bytes]]
09.05.2017 05:06:05, Swifteagle: Keep those pics for later noobs
09.05.2017 05:06:12, Swifteagle: will save you a lot of time :)
09.05.2017 05:06:24, Criptonauta: i will ^^
09.05.2017 05:06:40, Swifteagle: I am really sorry for all the questions
09.05.2017 05:06:40, Criptonauta: better in polo or trade view?
09.05.2017 05:06:45, Criptonauta: polo is the real one
09.05.2017 05:06:54, Swifteagle: Polo
09.05.2017 05:06:56, Criptonauta: trading view rhe more elegant
09.05.2017 05:07:09, Swifteagle: yeah but as you said, people are using polo
09.05.2017 05:07:14, Criptonauta: yup
09.05.2017 05:07:15, Swifteagle: Andre how old are you?
09.05.2017 05:07:21, Criptonauta: 38, you?
09.05.2017 05:07:37, Swifteagle: 31
09.05.2017 05:07:52, Swifteagle: so did you learn all about trading from 3 months ago
09.05.2017 05:07:53, Swifteagle: ?
09.05.2017 05:12:52, Criptonauta: i really dont know man...i like crypto and digital world, i lke t dig things, bit the main thig is that i found enjoyable to deal with gunbot, like a race mechanic and test pilot at the same time
09.05.2017 05:13:08, Criptonauta: so perhaps i dont know much about trading, but trading with gunbot
09.05.2017 05:14:30, Criptonauta: my technical analysis is totally oriented to gunbot, it's not efficient for a manual trading for example
09.05.2017 05:15:55, Criptonauta: but partnering with mr cryptoastrologist with 10yrs in wallstreet and a 80% rate, both gunbot and swing trade will be available
09.05.2017 05:15:57, Swifteagle: 👍
09.05.2017 05:16:12, Swifteagle: Hey where is that post where you ask for feedback for your reputation?
09.05.2017 05:16:21, Swifteagle: I would like to leave a message, but I cant find it
09.05.2017 05:17:44, Criptonauta: https://gunthy.org/index.php?topic=156.0
09.05.2017 05:17:52, Criptonauta: thanks ^^
09.05.2017 05:22:39, Swifteagle: Ok Done, have a look!
09.05.2017 05:23:47, Criptonauta: check main group ^^
09.05.2017 05:26:39, Swifteagle: HAHAHA
09.05.2017 05:27:21, Criptonauta: thank you very much for your feedback
09.05.2017 05:27:30, Criptonauta: see? a lot of fight but no proofs
09.05.2017 05:27:58, Criptonauta: i knw CKCanada settings are good, he''s like my rival, but i sincerly doubt it's 5% a day every single day
09.05.2017 05:28:02, Swifteagle: Criptokeepercanada is claiming 5%
09.05.2017 05:28:21, Swifteagle: He is selling at a set price
09.05.2017 05:28:58, Swifteagle: You welcome, you deserve the posivite feedback +++
09.05.2017 05:49:51, Criptonauta: u r right ^^
09.05.2017 05:50:05, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 25'392 bytes]]
09.05.2017 05:58:12, Criptonauta: message for you, a courtesy of our premium service ^^
09.05.2017 05:58:16, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 90'995 bytes]]
09.05.2017 05:58:20, Criptonauta: better hurry ^^
09.05.2017 06:11:23, Swifteagle: So what is the go.. just buy and hold BTC, Burst, NXT, AMP, CLAM AND VTC?
09.05.2017 06:11:38, Criptonauta: yup
09.05.2017 06:11:49, Swifteagle: Is that from whales?
09.05.2017 06:11:55, Criptonauta: i just did with 0.3 in three of them
09.05.2017 06:11:55, Swifteagle: seems you are in the right chat amigo
09.05.2017 06:12:02, Criptonauta: ^^
09.05.2017 06:12:07, Swifteagle: but not with bot
09.05.2017 06:12:10, Swifteagle: just for holding
09.05.2017 06:12:13, Swifteagle: right?
09.05.2017 06:12:22, Criptonauta: yup
09.05.2017 06:12:29, Swifteagle: 👍
09.05.2017 06:15:30, Criptonauta: esta és mi vision rude desto
09.05.2017 06:15:33, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 45'297 bytes]]
09.05.2017 06:16:21, Swifteagle: que target?
09.05.2017 06:16:43, Criptonauta: [[Document, size 31'316 bytes]]
09.05.2017 06:16:53, Criptonauta: veo con el despues
09.05.2017 06:23:52, Swifteagle: ok done!
09.05.2017 06:23:56, Swifteagle: lets see how it goes
09.05.2017 06:26:26, Criptonauta: ^^
09.05.2017 06:47:42, Swifteagle: Are you 429ing at the moment?
09.05.2017 06:49:13, Criptonauta: 429ining or 420ing?
09.05.2017 06:49:15, Criptonauta: lol
09.05.2017 06:49:44, Criptonauta: apaprently not now
09.05.2017 06:49:52, Criptonauta: confirmed yes
09.05.2017 06:50:10, Criptonauta: f*c. hours already with problem
09.05.2017 06:50:54, Swifteagle: It is

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Re: Swifteagle - bad payer
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2017, 05:46:07 AM »
"Since the content of the conversation is now public and I talk about my services, I also attaching the document we were talking about, where I explain my mindset - and that you are trying to distort with your weak arguments. READERS: A courtesy https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFgtbe7i0mLa2g5ZEF1VGhFdVU/view?usp=sharing. Please download it, read it and then read this chat again."

"I also attaching the document we were talking about, where I explain my mindset"- Would have been great if this was sent to me... But you only sent me a bunch of quick drawings made in paint that were far from professional. The above link was NEVER PART OF OUR CONVERSATION! I have never even seen that document before.  It has no place in this discussion!!!

Now can you please address the 0.23 fee you were prepared to get from me... Now you claim you only wanted 0.1 but never corrected me in the chat when I mentioned others (Criptokeepercanada) charging a set fee or when I said I would pay you 0.1 and then later the rest. please don't avoid this. You are opportunistic and you expected .23 at the end!

Second please adress: Why you said my bot licence was gonig to be revoked.   Why do you have such powers? Don't avoid this main issues.

Third: Why did try to make it sound like I took off the day you get me the settings?

I have no issues with this conversation being public. Except that you chose to publish until the 09.05.2017 as per your "He's been offline in TG since 19/05 and in Gunthy since 09/05, the day I sold him the setup."... Well, actually we spoke after that and I even sent you a screenshot of my loses.


Here is the rest for anyone interested:

Swifteagle:
It is insane
 hey how reliable is that signal?

[9:06:23 PM] Criptonauta:
it's from the cryptoastrologist with 10yers expertise in wallstreet with 80% rate
 left it and joined cryptoworld

--- Wednesday, May 10, 2017 ---

[4:06:40 PM] Criptonauta:
pura vida?

sobreviviste a la maré roja de las alts? ^^
[6:26:13 PM] Swifteagle:
Hola Andre
 acabo de llegar a la casa
 ya voy a mirar
 Y no se me ha olvidado que te debe mandar btc. por eso me connecte :)
 Como te fue a ti?

[6:27:00 PM] Criptonauta:
ah
 fue un dia de muchos 502, 500, 429
[6:27:15 PM] Swifteagle:
oh wow estan en green!

[6:27:19 PM] Criptonauta:
casi no hubo trades
 si
 y lastimosamente no podemos tradear correctamente
 lastimadamente*
[6:27:48 PM] Swifteagle:
ya vendiste las recomendaciones de ayer?

[6:28:10 PM] Criptonauta:
no, eston con ellas
 estoy
[6:28:18 PM] Swifteagle:
hasta cuando?
 [Photo]

[6:28:55 PM] Criptonauta:
casi hace 24h
[6:29:04 PM] Swifteagle:
Andre que pena contigo, me puedes dar unos dias para darte tu 0.1
 Mi bot compro algo
 LBC
 me dejo sin balance

[6:30:36 PM] Criptonauta:
en uno tiempo mas vuy a tener el target, por momento voy a 250 comprado a 214
[6:31:08 PM] Swifteagle:
oye como consguiste estar en ese chat?

[6:31:17 PM] Criptonauta:
cual chat
 el grupo de telegram?
[6:31:28 PM] Swifteagle:
[Photo]

[6:31:41 PM] Criptonauta:
ah
 es mi partner de negocios aca
[6:32:31 PM] Swifteagle:
Pues esas monedas se recuperaron.. pero igual lo hicieron todas
 la pregunta ahora es, van a moon? o que ?
 Burst esta pegada

[6:35:07 PM] Criptonauta:
si, van a tener un burst
hasta el momento todas las llamadas del estuvieron buenas
 asi que tenga el target se le informo
[6:35:34 PM] Swifteagle:
:+1:
 Andre entonces me puedes esperar para los 0.1 ... Mil disculpas

[6:38:43 PM] Criptonauta:
si, creo que hoy sera dia de buen movimiento
[6:38:57 PM] Swifteagle:
:+1:
 Tengo muchas 422 y se bloqueo el bot :S

[6:39:36 PM] Criptonauta:
q delay esta y cuantos pares?
[6:39:47 PM] Swifteagle:
40
 7 por API
 2 API
 14 en total

[6:40:15 PM] Criptonauta:
y el fail delay?
 en win no  se le puede confugurar directamente
 pero esta en el template
[6:41:04 PM] Swifteagle:
ah no se
 default

[6:41:43 PM] Criptonauta:
editelos manualmente. temporalmente cambie el fail delay para 30
[6:42:08 PM] Swifteagle:
ok lo voy a hacer ya
 Oye que lindo el sonido de los pajaros en tu ciudad

[6:42:50 PM] Criptonauta:
las manãnas e finales de tarde son como fiestas ^^
[6:43:29 PM] Swifteagle:
tu que servicio de vps utilizas? yo tengo aws
 amazon
 gratis por un año, pero solo 1gb

[6:44:34 PM] Criptonauta:
usaba a aws, pero ella llego a  la capacidad
 ahi me fui para contabo
[6:44:59 PM] Swifteagle:
sale caro?

[6:46:37 PM] Criptonauta:
 
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[6:47:13 PM] Swifteagle:
cool

[6:47:56 PM] Criptonauta:
eso lin, win sale un poco mas
 pero se te vas a cambiar, va para lin, no es dificil de configurar y tiene mas performance
[6:48:58 PM] Swifteagle:
que tal es el linux de aws?
 podria empezar ahi

[6:50:35 PM] Criptonauta:
si, puede ser un buen teste
 aund que tenga solo un o dos cores, podras perceber que con el sue pueda mas pares
[6:57:59 PM] Swifteagle:
BOT_ON_FAIL_DELAY: (1000) * 10
 esta?

[6:58:13 PM] Criptonauta:
30 at least
[6:58:23 PM] Swifteagle:
BOT_ON_FAIL_DELAY: (1000) * 30?
 or
 BOT_ON_FAIL_DELAY: (30) * 10

[6:58:43 PM] Criptonauta:
1000 * 30
[6:58:49 PM] Swifteagle:
ok gracias
 oye porque Gun no hace esto de default?

[6:59:20 PM] Criptonauta:
en gui ud dice?
[6:59:33 PM] Swifteagle:
no estos settings que me estas dando

[6:59:45 PM] Criptonauta:
ah xp normalmente no son estos
 es que polo esta limitando a todos
 debido a los ddos
[7:00:30 PM] Swifteagle:
ok
 LTC va super bien hoy

[7:16:21 PM] Criptonauta:
si, estoy tratando de entrar en ella
[7:22:16 PM] Swifteagle:
Oye estoy mirando XMR, creo que BB conservative? o no?

[7:23:27 PM] Criptonauta:
si, seria ella. contudo no estoy confiando mucho en BB con el estado que polo está
[7:23:59 PM] Swifteagle:
mejor serial killer?
 por como esta Polo?

[7:24:20 PM] Criptonauta:
si
 por lo menos dependemos de directamente de gain y menos lecturas de precio
 next is good to go if you want
[7:33:34 PM] Swifteagle:
what is?
 oh
 NXT
 so we are closing?
 or about to take off?

[7:34:52 PM] Criptonauta:
it will test again if it wins it'll take off
if it not, it's a good price now
 i prefer to liquidize
 BURST 220 OK
NXT 2752 OK
AMP 9140 OK
CLAM 2671 OK
VTC 1741 OK

Above that at traders discretion
[7:36:05 PM] Swifteagle:
Thank you!

--- Friday, May 12, 2017 ---

[12:57:50 AM] Criptonauta:
Hi!

I'd be a great moment for the transfer, BTC is like crazy in BR
1 btc = 8000 brl today

yesterday 6400

before yesterday 5800
[9:28:45 AM] Swifteagle:
Hi Andre... My balance still below 0.1 .. I had to go back to 2.0.4 as the VPS would stop working with 3.1 . So had to go back to what I was using before.
 I have 0.05 at the moment. I can transfer you that
 necesito mirar como instalar linux

[9:30:21 AM] Criptonauta:
0.5 is fine
 btc in brasil increased still more ^^
 hello :)
[9:30:44 AM] Swifteagle:
Listo te voy a mandar ya
 13ZgV8UQqZ4Xd8JzKnBdQrBqnuTV9iUCR8
 esa es tu wallet correct?

[9:32:47 AM] Criptonauta:
13ZgV8UQqZ4Xd8JzKnBdQrBqnuTV9iUCR8
 correct
[9:40:29 AM] Swifteagle:
Done!
 [Photo]
[10:17:26 AM] Swifteagle:
apenas tenga mas balance te mando el resto

[11:31:15 PM] Criptonauta:
tranquilo
 you can use the latest version now, increible bajo consumo de recursos

--- Saturday, May 13, 2017 ---
[9:54:32 AM] Swifteagle:
oh excelente...
 no sabia que habia una version nueva
 hay que hacer algun tipo de cambios al config?

[11:16:46 AM] Criptonauta:
si, esta todo diferente. revisa al readme de github
[1:41:30 PM] Swifteagle:
lo hare hoy!

--- Sunday, May 14, 2017 ---
[5:36:38 PM] Swifteagle:
como vas Andre?
 Te ha ido bien? A mi no mucho... tenia como 5% de ganancia desde hace una semana...pero bajo a 1.5% :S

[8:48:57 PM] Criptonauta:
Hello Felipe
Si, dias dificies aun mas con Gunbot fuera por casi 48h con los probs d epolo
[9:02:48 PM] Swifteagle:
yo he estado muy ocupado, y apenas mire los bots.. todos con 429
 :S

[9:09:52 PM] Criptonauta:
pesimo eso de polo
edited
he logrado una mejor situacion con la nueva version

--- Thursday, May 18, 2017 ---
[10:39:52 AM] Swifteagle:
Serial killer, bought FLO at the highest it could and then I was left holding bags... :S -12% down
 the same happened with like 5 other coins

[10:40:51 AM] Criptonauta:
Hola Felipe

:/ que mala nota :/
[10:41:07 AM] Swifteagle:
Como estas?

[10:42:57 AM] Criptonauta:
todo bien
durmiendo poco...
[10:55:48 AM] Swifteagle:
sabes cuando sale el 3.2 gui for windows?

[10:57:18 AM] Criptonauta:
todavia no
[11:00:21 AM] Swifteagle:
Oye te han vuelto a dar tips de coins?
 Yo estoy mirando, LBC Y DCR...

[6:49:06 PM] Criptonauta:
Felipe, me gustaria recibir la parte que queda
Si no parar algun par la plata estará siempre girando

--- Friday, May 19, 2017 ---

[5:22:44 AM] Criptonauta:
it'll have to be another address, pls inform me when you are able
[3:58:19 PM] Swifteagle:
[Photo]
 Lo unico que he logrado es perdidas
 Entonces por ahora lo siento!

[3:59:00 PM] Criptonauta:
Hola Felipe
[3:59:07 PM] Swifteagle:
Hola Andre, como estas?

[3:59:15 PM] Criptonauta:
ahora me preocupas, no por la plata sino por la situacion
 todo frozen?
[3:59:41 PM] Swifteagle:
No, esta funcionando... pero creo que compro en un mal momento
 FLO lo compro lo mas alto posible :S
 pero pues no lo he parado esperando a ver que ocurre

[4:00:17 PM] Criptonauta:
que settings?
[4:00:24 PM] Swifteagle:
Serial killer
 3.1 para mi vps

[4:01:03 PM] Criptonauta:
estas tomando notas de los resultados?
[4:01:39 PM] Swifteagle:
desde hace como una semana tengo bags
 no los ha podido vender.. pero tengo que ponerme a tomar cuenta

[4:03:07 PM] Criptonauta:
si, pq hi se puede ver se son causas solo de las settings,  del mercado o del pilot ^^
 ejemplo:
[4:03:40 PM] Swifteagle:
El problema es que no puedo utilizar bb

[4:04:05 PM] Criptonauta:
xq no haces el update?
 o abre los de bb en un cliente legacy?
[4:04:15 PM] Swifteagle:
no hay gui en 3.2
 no se que es un cliente legacy

[4:06:09 PM] Criptonauta:
un 2.x
 con la bb antigua
[4:06:29 PM] Swifteagle:
yo tengo el 2.4

[4:06:37 PM] Criptonauta:
entonces
[4:06:42 PM] Swifteagle:
pero como se habre el bb?

[4:09:23 PM] Criptonauta:
sry
3.1 sin el patch1024
 con la formula vieja de BB

--- Sunday, May 28, 2017 ---
edited
[3:25:43 AM] Criptonauta:
Hola Felipe, como estas?

No ha noticias suyas desde bastante tempo,

Realmente no me gustaria pensar que no pagarás la parte que queda, aun mas cuando es tan poco.

Principalmente por que eso tambien implica en la revogacion de la licencia de Gunbot.

pero como no ha una posicion tuya, creo que es lo unico modo.

Por favor, aguardo por noticias




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Re: Swifteagle - bad payer
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2017, 05:50:41 AM »
This is the capture I sent you when you were pressuring me for money!

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Re: Swifteagle - bad payer
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2017, 12:40:47 PM »
@Swifteagle1

Where is that 0.23btc you keep talking about? Seems to me all the conversation is public and there's no mentioning of that.

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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2017, 12:12:40 AM »
@Henkka,
Please read the following and tell me what he meant by "deal" after I told him I would give him 0.1 and then the rest... What is the rest referring to if he was only happy with 0.1?

If he was happy with just the 0.1 wouldn't he have said that there was no more to pay... Even when I mentioned that cryptocanada was doing it a set price of 0.1 he never said anything further.

He was expecting 0.23 in the long run because I walked into that... He was opportunistic!



09.05.2017 00:39:15, Criptonauta: so 70/3 = 23,3333, that would be the time to double the capital now
09.05.2017 00:39:52, Criptonauta: the difference of that is 46,66666
09.05.2017 00:40:27, Criptonauta: so i'd take a third or -.23 and you make the double in 46.6 instead of 70
09.05.2017 00:41:45, Criptonauta: or 2 thirds of the time you'd make without the new setup

after that, it wont be 46,6 days anymore, but 23.3
09.05.2017 00:41:54, Criptonauta: until u reach 5 btc
09.05.2017 00:42:02, Criptonauta: then only 46 trades are neeeded
09.05.2017 00:42:06, Swifteagle: so the charge is .23btc?
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09.05.2017 01:28:49, Swifteagle: well I will make you an offer... I can give you 0.1 now and then the rest once I have double my balance. obviously you would have to trust me that I will give you the rest. Which I rather do that and have you as a friend

09.05.2017 01:29:03, Criptonauta: deal
« Last Edit: June 29, 2017, 12:15:00 AM by Swifteagle1 »

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Re: Swifteagle - bad payer
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2017, 03:17:18 AM »
 ;D


Come on, this is getting hilarious but I'm now getting worried about you.

Henkkaa? Are you serious?

Who are you calling next? Ghostbusters?

I was always considering the 0.1 and even this amount you've never paid it in full.

Be happy man, use the knowledge I provided to you or not, use the settings or not, it's your choice. You disappeared without paying and came back crying like a baby. Trust is acquired and I work hard to maintain it. I proved that I was never unavailable and you, out of resort, calls for extra help

Want the 0.05 back and some candies?

@Henkka,
Please read the following and tell me what he meant by "deal" after I told him I would give him 0.1 and then the rest... What is the rest referring to if he was only happy with 0.1?

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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2017, 10:50:14 AM »
" and came back crying like a baby"

What are you talking about, I took my loss and moved on... I never blamed you or bitched to you about your settings. You started this thread and I responded! You thought I was in Lambo land with your settings, well no... I closed at a loss and moved on!

Reminder to anyone reading...I paid 0.07 for the bot...  you make your own conclusions. It is like buying a brand new car and paying more for fuel than what you paid for the car... 

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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 05:50:56 PM »
Can we get a Spanish translator in here.

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Re: Swifteagle - bad payer
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2017, 05:34:09 AM »
Lots to read through.  And, yes, without translation it's incomplete.

The Welcome to Criptonautas PDF looks pretty sweet to me.  I hadn't see anything like it before.  Has professional analysis there that is nicely presented.  CoinTracking is awesome.  Found it yesterday before I saw the Welcome to Criptonautas PDF and it's impressive.  CoinTracking is quite expensive but very solid.