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Offline Kuriso

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12 hours ago I started running a test of both trading strategies.  I have the same 8 pairs running for both 1000trades and Supergun.  At some point last night my windows updated and restarted so the bots have not ran the whole time.  At this point, with 8 pairs each and .2btc traded per pair, my polo balance is worth:

1.60563btc - 1000trades
1.60554btc - Supergun

+.01117btc running total

Each account was started with exactly 1.6btc
So far basically even but 1000 trades has made a ton more trades.  5 pages of trades vs 1 page of trades for Supergun
I will continue to update this thread over the next week and let you guys know which system is better.

Update2

Going on 24 hours.  I've added 2 more pairs because not all btc is getting used at the same time.
1000trades: now up to 10 pages of trades and account balance is 1.61441805 BTC
Supergun: still only 1 page of trades and account balance is 1.61644814 BTC

+.03086619btc running total

Still running about even.

Update 3

A little over 36 hours now.  I've added 3 more pairs.  This brings me to 13 total sets running.
1000trades: now up to 13 pages of trades and account balance is 1.61421104 BTC
Supergun: 2 pages of trades and account balance is 1.64114595 BTC

+.05535699btc running total

Supergun has now pulled ahead.  I do not know if this is accurate now though.  I think the 1000trades bot died last night.  All console screens went blank and there was a long period of no trades.  I will continue to run the bots for a week and see how they do.

Update 4

A little over 48 hours now.
1000trades: now up to 18 pages of trades and account balance is 1.62011555 BTC
Supergun: 3 pages of trades and account balance is 1.63016095 BTC

+.0502765btc running total

While Supergun is still ahead, it has made some bad purchases today.  The markets were up and as they started to sell off, the bots bought in and has left me with some bags.  We'll see how it looks tomorrow.

Update 5

A little over 60 hours now.
1000trades: now up to 24 pages of trades and account balance is 1.62611253 BTC
Supergun: 5 pages of trades and account balance is 1.64277137 BTC

+.0688839 running total

Update 6

A little over 72 hours - I paused the bots to move to a new VPS.  Had some issues so I've been delayed.
1000trades: now up to 31 pages of trades and account balance is 1.6292254 BTC
Supergun: 6 pages of trades and account balance is 1.6500484 BTC

+0.0792738 running total

Update 7

Up to about 84 hours of run time - about 12 hours after restart
1000trades: 35 pages of trades and account balance is 1.62049257 BTC
Supergun: 7 pages of trades and account balance is 1.69446467 BTC

+0.11495724 running total

Update 8

Up to about 96 hours of run time
1000trades: account balance is 1.63281689 BTC
Supergun: account balance is 1.71166614 BTC

+0.14448303 running total with plenty of bags now

Update 8

Up to about 108 hours of run time
1000trades: account balance is 1.63181786 BTC
Supergun: account balance is 1.74103629 BTC
Plenty of bags still held by the supergun bot

+0.17285415 running total

« Last Edit: April 19, 2017, 05:54:00 AM by Kuriso »

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2017, 10:11:34 PM »
If it went down the supergun wouldn't of sold would it?

Whereas the 1000 trades for me instantly sets the sell orders.

Might be why there was no difference but much higher fee's


Let me know how this goes, very interesting! Then we'll have to find the optimal SuperGun/1000 Settings.

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2017, 10:31:27 PM »
If it went down the supergun wouldn't of sold would it?

Whereas the 1000 trades for me instantly sets the sell orders.

Might be why there was no difference but much higher fee's


Let me know how this goes, very interesting! Then we'll have to find the optimal SuperGun/1000 Settings.

Fees are not necessarily higher with the 1000trades.  1000trades generally buys smaller amounts whereas the Supergun makes larger purchases.  I'll see about adding up the fees and see if they are really higher one way or another.



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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2017, 10:32:46 PM »
so in the long run .. profitability is most important .. so what's best to use ? 1000trades or supergun ?
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Offline Kuriso

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2017, 10:43:10 PM »
so in the long run .. profitability is most important .. so what's best to use ? 1000trades or supergun ?

I don't have that answer yet.  We'll see in a week.

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 02:37:12 AM »
Going on 24 hours.  I've added 2 more pairs because not all btc is getting used at the same time.

1000trades: now up to 10 pages of trades and account balance is 1.61441805 BTC

Supergun: still only 1 page of trades and account balance is 1.61644814 BTC

Still running about even.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2017, 02:40:45 AM by Kuriso »

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2017, 02:42:22 AM »
thanks for the updates, look forward to more and testing it too

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2017, 03:27:41 PM »
Didnt expect them to run even. Mind posting your settings?

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2017, 06:13:17 PM »
Didnt expect them to run even. Mind posting your settings?

I started out using 1/1/1 and 2/2/2 for 1000trades but I have changed that to 1/1/1/ and 2.5/2.5/2.5

I am using .5/.5/3 and 2/2/8 for Supergun

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 02:45:45 AM »
Didnt expect them to run even. Mind posting your settings?

I started out using 1/1/1 and 2/2/2 for 1000trades but I have changed that to 1/1/1/ and 2.5/2.5/2.5

I am using .5/.5/3 and 2/2/8 for Supergun

Double check with Gunthar... 1000 trades should just use buy level 1 for buying and selling, so your changes might of done nothing..

Since it changes both at the same time you'll need to move it up tiny bits.. I only tried with 1.1 but it seemed to get me more profit than I was getting at 1(over a few hours only though sorry)
I think upping it by .1 each time is your best bet.

Thankyou for this though, is very interesting!
Now that you're changing the settings too we can show the differences in sell time and profit hopefully

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2017, 05:09:42 AM »
I paused my bots when I reached 72 hours.  I had to move them off my computer and on to a server.  I've had some issues since doing so.  As soon as I figure out the problem, I'll be back to running these 2 bots.

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2017, 04:11:41 PM »
Really interesting comparison, thanks for sharing this !

Could you please tell us which pairs you choose for this test ?

Keep on the good job


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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2017, 12:19:36 AM »
I dont believe this is a which is better scenario, it depends on what part of the trend we are in. It would be nice to run % of max balance for 1000t and supergun to optimize on opportunity.

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2017, 05:35:41 AM »
How is it not a "which is better scenario"??  The bots are riding the same trend at the same time.  I'm running the same pairs, at the same time, with the same amounts, with two different strategies, pointed at two different accounts.  Supergun has pulled ahead as a better strategy but as you can see, I'm making money with 1000trades that would have never been made with Supergun.  I've adjusted my 1000trades buy/sell to more closely match the settings used in Supergun.  I'm curious to see if it can keep or continue to fall behind.

I like 1000trades because it buys smaller amounts and it buys and sells fast.  Less likely to hold bags.  My supergun account is full of coins waiting to sell and 1000trades has two.  I got the bots started again earlier today before bitcoin took off.  I have not adjusted the strategy.  I'm going to let it go and see what happens.  I have lost a little of my 1000trades earnings because I got stuck with some monero.  It bought when the anon flaw was reported. 

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2017, 12:37:06 AM »
b/c it depends on what the market is doing... each bot is suited better for different scenarios. high volume in a tight range 1000t> larger swings supergun>

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2017, 04:29:27 PM »
great thread.  thank you for making this.  just wanted to ask, if they are very close in profit now but with supergun you are holding more bags,  would that not mean that if at a later date, all those bags sold, you would be at a greater profit with supergun?  that is assuming a best case scenario where all sell order eventually sold.

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Re: Testing Strategies - Two sets of bots running 8 pairs for a week
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2017, 12:20:00 PM »
Great info! Thanks for sharing!

In an up-going market the Supergun would win, but the 1000tades is less risky because it is not holding any bags of ALT? Am I understanding this correctly?